"worse Under U.s. Control Than Saddam"iraq A Year After

[TradeOff]

Quote from ARogueTrader:

So the occupation strategy was a fuck up, but the invasion wasn't?

So we have no WMD, a cluster fuck of an "occupation" and no one has been fired. No one takes the blame.

Geez, why do you think the future conquests of GW will be any different?

Bomb the insurgents to the ground, like Dresden? Or Hiroshima?
Or Nagasiki?

That will show them the power of democracy when you voice your opinion against it. The Iraqi people and their neighbors will love us even more for that. That will end recruiting by Al Queda, and then the Iraqi people will hail us as liberators. The Jihad will end, and the oil will flow like rain.

Man, you have a serious problem if you think we can just bomb the shit out of our problems.

LMAO

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Quote from ARogueTrader:

So the occupation strategy was a fuck up, but the invasion wasn't?

So we have no WMD, a cluster fuck of an "occupation" and no one has been fired. No one takes the blame.

Geez, why do you think the future conquests of GW will be any different?

Bomb the insurgents to the ground, like Dresden? Or Hiroshima?
Or Nagasiki?

That will show them the power of democracy when you voice your opinion against it. The Iraqi people and their neighbors will love us even more for that. That will end recruiting by Al Queda, and then the Iraqi people will hail us as liberators. The Jihad will end, and the oil will flow like rain.

Man, you have a serious problem if you think we can just bomb the shit out of our problems.

Killing our troops is not giving "voice to your opinion."

War is hell. All your clever moral equivalency and Bush-bashing will not change that. I have said from the beginning we were not handling the occupation correctly. I truly wish I had been wrong. Now we have to deal with it. I don;'t think cutting and running is an option. I have serious problems with sending our troops out in hand to hand urban warfare. For what? As soon as we pacify things, we are handing the country over to a bunch of probably corrupt Iraqi thugs and Islamist crazies. Our troops are being sent into a meatgrinder to achieve that? Or let them have a taste of Shock and Awe, Part II. The voters will forget about it by November if we clean things up now.

I haven't heard a workable solution from you or John Kerry.

 

[ARogueTrader]

Kerry's workable solution is for GW to eat crow and get the world involved.

Make it a world versus the terrorists, you know like Afghanistan, rather than the USA versus the Clerics.

If the rest of the world gets behind the project, the terrorists will not be as powerful.

We need troops from all democratic countries in Iraq helping to keep the peace.

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Killing our troops is not giving "voice to your opinion."

War is hell. All your clever moral equivalency and Bush-bashing will not change that. I have said from the beginning we were not handling the occupation correctly. I truly wish I had been wrong. Now we have to deal with it. I don;'t think cutting and running is an option. I have serious problems with sending our troops out in hand to hand urban warfare. For what? As soon as we pacify things, we are handing the country over to a bunch of probably corrupt Iraqi thugs and Islamist crazies. Our troops are being sent into a meatgrinder to achieve that? Or let them have a taste of Shock and Awe, Part II. The voters will forget about it by November if we clean things up now.

I haven't heard a workable solution from you or John Kerry.

 

[TradeOff]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Killing our troops is not giving "voice to your opinion."

War is hell. All your clever moral equivalency and Bush-bashing will not change that. I have said from the beginning we were not handling the occupation correctly. I truly wish I had been wrong. Now we have to deal with it. I don;'t think cutting and running is an option. I have serious problems with sending our troops out in hand to hand urban warfare. For what? As soon as we pacify things, we are handing the country over to a bunch of probably corrupt Iraqi thugs and Islamist crazies. Our troops are being sent into a meatgrinder to achieve that? Or let them have a taste of Shock and Awe, Part II. The voters will forget about it by November if we clean things up now.

I haven't heard a workable solution from you or John Kerry.

I tend to agree. Not enough thought was given to the "what if" scenarios and the "what then" and "then what" scenarios.

Who and what do we blame for this then?

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[TradeOff]

Quote from ARogueTrader:

Kerry's workable solution is for GW to eat crow and get the world involved.

Make it a world versus the terrorists, you know like Afghanistan, rather than the USA versus the Clerics.

If the rest of the world gets behind the project, the terrorists will not be as powerful.

We need troops from all democratic countries in Iraq helping to keep the peace.

What happens if we made it OUR clerics versus THEIR clerics?

We sent them in and let "Jesus" and "Allah" slug it out.

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from ARogueTrader:

Make it a world versus the terrorists, you know like Afghanistan, rather than the USA versus the Clerics.

It has never been the world versus the terrorists. It has always been the Israelis, the US, the Brits, and a few paltry platoons from the "world" for PR purposes.

The world didn't have 3,000 of its citizens killed on 9/11. What makes you think the world would get on board now? Most of the world, including virtually all of our European "allies," could care less about what happens to this country unless it affects their pockets. Many figure the US has gotten its just deserts, and hope for another massive attack on our soil.

What other countries have the resources or national will to take on terrorists aggressively? Spain?

We need troops from all democratic countries in Iraq helping to keep the peace.

In other words, the UN. Even if that happens, after a few UN peacekeepers are killed, they will leave and guess who will be left holding the bag? Or multiple resolutions will be issued with no follow-through. And if follow-through is actually decided on, who will perform the majority of that action? We will. The UN's record in policing hotspots is, and you know this Rogue, horrible.

As long as there is an Arab Middle East composed solely of dictatorships and theocracies that espouse hate toward us and keep their citizens in a state of fear and with little economic opportunities, terrorism against us will always exist. And we are the only ones who can fight that war with any vigor.

We are on our own.