World’s first anti-ageing drug could see humans live to 120
- Thread starter Frederick Foresight
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it's a panacea for that lucky one
by definitionThis news is PR for Big Pharma and even if it will increase lifespan it will never be approved for that.
Selegiline came and went. Never tested in humans. Currently it's only used by veterinarians for aged dogs with cognitive decline. It was tested on six species of warm blooded animals and increased lifespan by 40%... It had miniscule side effects. It was a big yawner for the MSM apparently, I mean, who ever heard of it? I used to be able to get it from an online pharmacy in Spain but they shut that down.
Selegiline came and went. Never tested in humans. Currently it's only used by veterinarians for aged dogs with cognitive decline. It was tested on six species of warm blooded animals and increased lifespan by 40%... It had miniscule side effects. It was a big yawner for the MSM apparently, I mean, who ever heard of it? I used to be able to get it from an online pharmacy in Spain but they shut that down.
A somewhat more sober article on the subject:
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/a...e-alzheimers-yes-that-was-too-good-to-be-true
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/a...e-alzheimers-yes-that-was-too-good-to-be-true
Don't have to wait for a pill, a disciplined and self-sacrificing eater can achieve this now.
https://www.fightaging.org/archives/2002/11/calorie-restriction-explained.php
Calorie restriction or caloric restriction, usually abbreviated to CR, is a strategy proven to extend healthy, average, and maximum life span in many short lived species, including mice and rats, and at least healthy and average life span in primates. In research papers it is more usually called dietary restriction, abbreviated to DR, and rodent studies conducted over the past 20 years have reliably demonstrated up to a 40% increase in maximum life span through life-long DR.
https://www.fightaging.org/archives/2002/11/calorie-restriction-explained.php
Calorie restriction or caloric restriction, usually abbreviated to CR, is a strategy proven to extend healthy, average, and maximum life span in many short lived species, including mice and rats, and at least healthy and average life span in primates. In research papers it is more usually called dietary restriction, abbreviated to DR, and rodent studies conducted over the past 20 years have reliably demonstrated up to a 40% increase in maximum life span through life-long DR.
I remember seeing a segment some time ago on calorie restrictive diets for longevity on 60 Minutes, I believe. The people being interviewed looked like cadavers and took pleasure in eating foods with minimal calories and, if memory serves, protein. So the body basically turns on itself to get the macros it needs even though the metabolism may slow down. I also don't recall those people being physically active in a meaningful way, but I can't say for certain.
Perhaps there's a longevity component in there somewhere, but I would think that if you're maintaining a proper weight and not carrying unnecessary fat, then you're probably doing what needs to be done insofar as calorie consumption/restriction is concerned.
Perhaps there's a longevity component in there somewhere, but I would think that if you're maintaining a proper weight and not carrying unnecessary fat, then you're probably doing what needs to be done insofar as calorie consumption/restriction is concerned.
Finding something to cure Alzheimer's would be truly great. I've seen two of my Aunts go down with it. Not pretty. Until they can gain some real headway on the old age type diseases that hit far too many in their eighties, living to 120 doesn't look all that appealing. Everyone thinks they're going to be the 95 year old who is at the gym everyday, still has their wit about them and is nailing some 40 year old. That ain't reality for most.
I'm all for the research, but lets not put the cart before the horse. Quality of life matters far more than longevity, least to me.
Keep in mind that efforts to slow down the aging process are not just about extending old age, but about redefining it. Slowing down the process means slowing down the onset of age-related maladies, which include Alzheimer's. We're talking about extending the quality of life implicitly by extending its quantity. What you seem to be talking about is keeping people alive longer despite their infirmities. That misses the point entirely.
And funny you should mention exercise, since it helps to fight against Alzheimer's:
http://www.psychiatryadvisor.com/al...tia-mild-cognitive-impairment/article/455810/
http://healthland.time.com/2012/07/...y-weight-lifting-helps-keep-your-brain-sharp/
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Which is why I'm in the gym 5 days a week. At least that's one of the reasons. I whole heartedly agree that keeping people alive despite their infirmities it not the goal, but when you look at what much of the medical profession has become that is exactly what happens. People are kept alive, sometimes for years, in a physical and/or mental state that one could argue is nothing short of torture. There's hope, and then there's just blue sky bullshit, and of course, it's all about the dollar in the end. When the money runs out, suddenly, so does the hope.
That applies in all fields, which is why we have to be discerning before parting with our money. But there is legitimate research going on in the field, and that's a good thing. Be skeptical, but don't be a cynic.