Quote from d08:
That's how world wars get started. Japan owns large part of US debt as does China, now what if Japan tells party X that they can't pay back because of US default, all sorts of violent outcomes are possible. US military is very powerful but your mistake is to assume that the debt holders just accept and sit on their hands, an unlikely scenario.
Quote from William Rennick:
It would be a world wide forgiveness of all debt. If China, Japan,or Germany bitches we charge them 10,000,000.00 for each US soldier lost in WW2 or the Korean War. Wars they started.
Quote from d08:
That's how world wars get started. Japan owns large part of US debt as does China, now what if Japan tells party X that they can't pay back because of US default, all sorts of violent outcomes are possible. US military is very powerful but your mistake is to assume that the debt holders just accept and sit on their hands, an unlikely scenario.
that was a good oneQuote from Samsara:
I believe that was concerning debts incurred attached to land ownership, an idea that gained an interesting foothold in radical politics before the turn of the (prior) century here (as per <a href="http://harpers.org/blog/2012/10/monopoly-is-theft/">"Monopoly is Theft"</a> -- Harpers)
Quote from d08:
So what about the wars US started? Anyway, I'll play along with your childishness for a second.
Debt is not equal, this would heavily penalize countries without much debt. If debt has no meaning, you can't charge Germany, Japan, China anything - they'll laugh at those made up obligations. So are you advocating US invades all three countries, how do you rate the chances?
Quote from toc:
US will not default as that would be catastrophic.
USD will keep its slide down and lose purchasing power as it has been since 2003.
Higher taxes and spending cuts are coming.
Even if US goes into 10% austerity mode, soon the good results will start to show up. Only 4 more years to handle to hard part in the economy as by 2017 US will not be sending $1T a year overseas to buy energy. That will take care of the debt interest.
Government just needs to seek out another $1T a year of savings to pay off the debt in 16 years.
Quote from William Rennick:
Why do we invade? Our military is insurance that they don't invade us. We just tell them the slate is clear, or they can deal with a calamity that will dwarf the great depression. The path the world is on is not a childish scenario.