World War 3 is it coming?

Quote from Jeff700:

This thread is about coming World War 3

well here you go the people who will start it

Israeli president brags how he deceived President Clinton into believing he (Netanyahu) was helping implement the Oslo accords when he was actually destroying them.

http://www.israel-palestinenews.org...e-deceived.html

Bragging how Americans support Israel no matter what even against their own interested

“America is something that can be easily moved. Moved in the right direction. … They won’t get in our way. … Eighty percent of the Americans support us. It’s absurd.”

Americans came in with their "Peace Process" at a time when Israel had defeated a multi-national attack and were suing for peace, money, land, etc... The Peace Process is just bullshit from the US /New World Order to try to manage the region by balance of power. The Israeli's know that so their job is to cash in on it as best they can. I guess that was a better option at the time for them and maybe it still is...
 
Quote from olias:

I have only a basic understanding of things, but it seems to me that the War helped pull us out of the Great Depression because it got the government spending money on the war machine...sending soldiers overseas and opening up jobs to women and the otherwise unemployed.

My thinking is: why must we spend money on War, specifically? Let's use the money to do something a little more productive. The government should spend money to build shit and repair shit and hire people to do stuff....rather than give out all of this money for unemployment. Government needs to get creative and devise a way to get something for our money rather than give money away for doing nothing.

Anyway, my basic argument is that we don't need a war to get us out of this mess. We could get the same result by spending in other ways.


What most Americans dont understand about ww2 is that the Brits paid for it, the yanks sent materials and Britain paid, ultimately the yanks ended up with the British empire, and Britain just about bankrupt.
 
Quote from shortie:

Why the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor beats the crap out of me

The US cut Japan off from oil in the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia), their major source of oil at the time. That is what started the whole war of the Pacific.
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

The US cut Japan off from oil in the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia), their major source of oil at the time. That is what started the whole war of the Pacific.


Read the following post. There was WAY more oil in Siberia just waiting to be taken. Indonesia only produces about 1 million barrels per day even now. Indonesia is also farther away from Japan than Siberia, with all of the distance being water, while virtually all of the distance from Siberia to Japan was a land route which would allow a pipeline to be built to the Chinese or Korean coast. Or they could have just trucked it to the coast. The reason Indonesia became an issue was that it was a far flung island which would allow the Japanese navy some action in the war.


http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/06/siberian-oil/paul-starobin-text
 
Quote from endsongs:

Read the following post. There was WAY more oil in Siberia just waiting to be taken. Indonesia only produces about 1 million barrels per day even now. Indonesia is also farther away from Japan than Siberia, with all of the distance being water, while virtually all of the distance from Siberia to Japan was a land route which would allow a pipeline to be built to the Chinese or Korean coast. Or they could have just trucked it to the coast. The reason Indonesia became an issue was that it was a far flung island which would allow the Japanese navy some action in the war.


http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/06/siberian-oil/paul-starobin-text

Isoroku Yamamoto, commander of IJN's Combined Fleet was a Harvard graduate and saw first hand the industrial might of the United States, he repeatedly warned against war with the USA and that they would eventually lose. He was the target of numerous assasination attempts by the pro-war party. It was only under extreme pressure by Tojo that he and IJN's greatest naval strategist Minoru Genda submitted detailed plans to attack Pearl Harbor.

In China, logistics was already overstretched and the Communists were carrying out frequent guerilla assaults against the imperial army. For the army to take on the vast expanse in Siberia was an unthinkable supply nightmare.The Japanese would have been literally hundreds of miles from the nearest rail head for supply. This meant that with every mile they advanced their supply situation becomes more tenous. At the Battle of Khalkin Gol the Japanese were 350 miles from their railhead and able to maintain just one infantry division at that position. The Soviets threw the equivalent of a reinforced corps against them and wiped out that division,albeit at the cost of heavy casualties. The Japanese always thought Hitler was massively underestimating the Soviets and never declared war on them.

At that time, SE asia was under Colonial rule. The japanese also thought they could use the locals against the Allies which is why initially Sukarno, the 1st president of Indonesia and co welcomed the Japanese when they invaded. He and Mohammad Hatta, later 1st Prime Minister, even received awards from the japanese emperor and organized men to fight for Japan.
 
Quote from MohdSalleh:

Isoroku Yamamoto, commander of IJN's Combined Fleet was a Harvard graduate and saw first hand the industrial might of the United States, he repeatedly warned against war with the USA and that they would eventually lose. He was the target of numerous assasination attempts by the pro-war party. It was only under extreme pressure by Tojo that he and IJN's greatest naval strategist Minoru Genda submitted detailed plans to attack Pearl Harbor.

In China, logistics was already overstretched and the Communists were carrying out frequent guerilla assaults against the imperial army. For the army to take on the vast expanse in Siberia was an unthinkable supply nightmare.The Japanese would have been literally hundreds of miles from the nearest rail head for supply. This meant that with every mile they advanced their supply situation becomes more tenous. At the Battle of Khalkin Gol the Japanese were 350 miles from their railhead and able to maintain just one infantry division at that position. The Soviets threw the equivalent of a reinforced corps against them and wiped out that division,albeit at the cost of heavy casualties. The Japanese always thought Hitler was massively underestimating the Soviets and never declared war on them.

At that time, SE asia was under Colonial rule. The japanese also thought they could use the locals against the Allies which is why initially Sukarno, the 1st president of Indonesia and co welcomed the Japanese when they invaded. He and Mohammad Hatta, later 1st Prime Minister, even received awards from the japanese emperor and organized men to fight for Japan.


Good points. But, they are still focused on a static situation and not the dynamic situation of late 1941. USSr lost over 100,000 tanks and 100,000 planes during WW2 and a lot of those losses were in 1941. THere was a statistic in a book as to how few tanks/planes USSr had in late 1941, but I haven't been able to find it again. That stat would prove that if Japan attacked USSR , they did not have the material to defend the east.
 
What is starting to concern me more is that "Mother Nature" has started to increase the problems. Or at least it appears to me that there are more earthquakes, tsunamis, volcano eruptions, mudslides, hurricanes, tornadoes, lack of potable water, etc

I don't think there are more frequent 'mother nature problems',there are however many more people,densely populated getting in the way of mother nature occurrences.
We need to decrease our world population tru war or any other more humane ways.
 
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