World War 3 is it coming?

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Check a map of Europe from around early 1942. Germany, and their Allies, controlled virtually all of Europe except for the UK islands. They had plenty of manpower. The problem was that, once the US entered the war, the US spent 85% of it's resources to fight Germany and only 15% to fight Japan. So, even though Germany was smart enough not to incite America to enter the war, they had to deal with virtually all of America's military spending. And, perhaps most importantly, the US factories were not subject to around the clock bombing while Germany's were.

Germany in 1942 had not yet been able to develop their colonies in Europe into the manufacturing centers they needed to be in order to fight America conventionally. If Japan had attacked USSR, or at the very least, delayed attacking US for another year or so, Germany would have been able to beat USSR and able to develop factories to take on USA.

All this means is USA would have attacked Germany with the a-bomb until they surrendered.
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but in 1939 at a battle in Mongolia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Khalkhin_Gol
Soviet armoured forces crushed the Japanese 6th Army

Also, even though the Chinese were less well equipped than the Japanese and were fighting an internal Civil war. The Japanese were unable to take out the Chinese nationalist army even before the entrance of the Allies. At the battle of Shanghai and Wuham, japanese won pyrrhic victories and lost so many men, as the Chinese retreated into the West, the Japanese alone lost 100,000 men and were unable to take Sichuan.
 
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The reason I believe Japan attacked USA instead of hitting a USSR
weakened severely by Germany was that the Japanese navy needed something to do. The Japanese navy had seen little combat and was just used to ferry supplies to China. The navy wanted action and saw attacking UK and US as a way to get involved in the war.
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Japan wanted resources from SE Asia and knew USA would object as the USA already had interests in that area. Japan knew war with USA was inevitable, so they launched a pre-emptive strike at Pearl Harbour in an attempt to cripple their navy. Little did they know that the bulk of the Pacific fleet was not there.
 
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but in 1939 at a battle in Mongolia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Khalkhin_Gol
Soviet armoured forces crushed the Japanese 6th Army

Also, even though the Chinese were less well equipped than the Japanese and were fighting an internal Civil war. The Japanese were unable to take out the Chinese nationalist army even before the entrance of the Allies. At the battle of Shanghai and Wuham, japanese won pyrrhic victories and lost so many men, as the Chinese retreated into the West, the Japanese alone lost 100,000 men and were unable to take Sichuan.
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USSR relocated their Mongolian units to defend Moscow when they were told by a spy Japan would not attack.

Also, Germany destroyed an extremely high % of USSR tanks during 1941/early 1942. At one point in that time period, USSr only had a few thousand tanks left, mostly near Moscow. So, I doubt they would have been able to muster enough tanks to fully defend against Japan.

Comparing USSR 1938 when they were strong, to USSR late 1941 when Germany was close to Moscow and they were weakened is not good comparison. If 2.5Million Japanese soldiers had attacked East USSR in late 1941, when USSR was in full retreat from German units, I'm pretty sure USSR would have collapsed or signed some sort of treaty as they did not have the manpower to deal with a two front war in late 1941.
 
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Germany lost WWII because Japan attacked USA, which forced Germany to declare war on USA. American companies were already working on plans to do business with Germany at the time of Pearl Harbor. So, If Japan had attacked USSR instead, I don't think USA would have declared war on Germany.

Since Japan had around 5Million troops in China near USSR, they could have easily split the army in two and attacked USSR without losing any ground in China. I say this because the Chinese army had about the same number of soldiers but was terribly equipped. Also, Japan had the Zero fighter in 1941, which was better than any USSR plane. Lack of airpower was the reason Japan lost some skirmishes to USSR earlier.

The reason I believe Japan attacked USA instead of hitting a USSR
weakened severely by Germany was that the Japanese navy needed something to do. The Japanese navy had seen little combat and was just used to ferry supplies to China. The navy wanted action and saw attacking UK and US as a way to get involved in the war.

Eastern USSR had way more resources than some far flung islands in the middle of the ocean. The resources were relatively close to Japan's colonies in China so as to be brought in by road or rail. I'm sure the Japanese leadership saw this too, but because the navy wanted action, and kept begging for something to do in the war, the Japanese leadership gave in. Japan bringing USA into the war, and not helping Germany finish off a weakened USSR by attacking in September or October 1941, was the worst military decision in history. There is no way USSR could have survived a two front war, since Germany made it to Moscow with the USSR not having to split it's forces.

To further make the point, look at how fast France Fell, when Italy attacked them after Germany had weakened their military.

Had the USSR fell, with Communist China falling very soon after, USA would have had to use the Atom bomb on both Japan and Germany to end the war.
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Japan would have to deal with Germany if both conquered USSR. In addition, while the Siberia is rich in recources hardly anybody lives there. Therefore the Japanese would not have had many people to exploit to take advantage of the conqured recouces. Going to East Asia made much more sense (Japan gets Asia, Germany everything else).

Why the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor beats the crap out of me
 
so odd they only found it was a suicide attack now.If they choke the straits, USA will have to intervene, but there is no mroe money to fight another war, we must HYPER INFLATE
 
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WW3 would be too nasty or too quick, depending on opponents. But... a new black plague. Now that did wonders for the europe economy back in the day. Watch out..... lol We could just let this debt go bad and suffer for a bit and get back to it. Or mass death, whatever.
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the black plague destroyed the economies of Europe.
 
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