World military spending in 2009 = $1.53 trillion. USA share = 43%

US Federal Spending 2009:

defense: 782 billion


Scenario #1: Cutting it by 75% and using the money for something useful like improving infrastructure, developing green jobs, rebuilding our cities. Perhaps instead of building the next F22 we should employ those brains for something more beneficial for our society.

Scenario #2: Feeding our $$$ to big corporations who built garbage (Stealth Bomber for example) for billions of dollars and keep our brightest minds occupied creating better ways to kill people.

Hey but we can always blame the social security for the deficit and our debt. It has worked well so far.

P.S.

Defense-related expenditure for next year: 721 billion for DOD spending plus another 300 to 500 billion for FBI, military part of NASA work etc, etc,

TOTAL COST: 1 to 1.2 TRILLION A YEAR

As for border protection: $100,000 summons for each illegal working for any company enforced as rigorously as speeding ticket/red light/parking violations would clear the us of 99.9% of illegal immigrants without wasting millions on border "security".

Question is why has it not been done?
 
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He was 100% right.
 
Now that communism has not been an issue for 20 years, why does the USA feel the need for a huge international military presence? It's clearly reducing US security rather than enhancing it. The military could be cut in half and it would still be able to easily invade any country that it can invade now. Afghanistan and Iraq have shown that it is not pure military might that is the big deal, and Georgia showed that even with by far the most powerful army, the US is never going to do anything against major military powers like Russia, China, India etc.
 
Quote from saxon22:

US Federal Spending 2009:

defense: 782 billion


Scenario #1: Cutting it by 75% and using the money for something useful like improving infrastructure, developing green jobs, rebuilding our cities. Perhaps instead of building the next F22 we should employ those brains for something more beneficial for our society.

Scenario #2: Feeding our $$$ to big corporations who built garbage (Stealth Bomber for example) for billions of dollars and keep our brightest minds occupied creating better ways to kill people.

Hey but we can always blame the social security for the deficit and our debt. It has worked well so far.

P.S.

Defense-related expenditure for next year: 721 billion for DOD spending plus another 300 to 500 billion for FBI, military part of NASA work etc, etc,

TOTAL COST: 1 to 1.2 TRILLION A YEAR

As for border protection: $100,000 summons for each illegal working for any company enforced as rigorously as speeding ticket/red light/parking violations would clear the us of 99.9% of illegal immigrants without wasting millions on border "security".

Question is why has it not been done?

How about neither scenario? Or reduced, streamlined defense spending and no more money flushed down the toiled on wasted gov't jobs? This "the gov't didn't spend $$ on this, therefore it should spend it on that" mentality is what needs to go.

By the way, green energy is a joke. Simple math and physics don't support it. The output is miniscule, and sometimes it uses more energy via fossil fuels (as well as a ton of land and infrastructure) than it produces. The "green jobs" will go away once people realize that we've littered our countryside and chopped down trees for worthless solar panels and windmills.
 
Quote from pspr:

We should quit defending the world unless they chip in their fair share. Let Europe fall to the Russians or the Iranians. Let Japan and S. Korea defend themselves. We can't afford to keep protecting them for nothing.

These countries enter into military alliances with the U.S. then just keep token armies assured that the U.S. will come protect them. We need to stop this nonsense.

Israel's case (which does appear in the list) is worse than all those bigger countries (Japan, S korean, Europe): It siphons money, prestige, brings mainly trouble, offers no return on investment while other countries send business deals/money/etc, and it even has the guts to spy on the US!
 
Quote from pspr:

We should quit defending the world unless they chip in their fair share. Let Europe fall to the Russians or the Iranians. Let Japan and S. Korea defend themselves. We can't afford to keep protecting them for nothing.

Ha ha, man you make laugh. Only an American would describe your military as 'Defending the World'. Stupid Yank regurgitates the rhetoric on CNBC.

As an American you have absolutely no conscious concept other than what you are told in America. You cannot even comprehend the views from outside the US. Man, you're a proper hill billy red neck dumb ass


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Quote from crgarcia:

Military spending should INCREASE during recessions, so that those unemployed can at least find a job as soldiers. Sad but true.
Yes military jobs are one of the best ways to create jobs when there is mass unemployment but it will lead to big wars. I think this is what started World War 2.
 
Because whites NEVER join the military for a job or money for college.

Of course they do, but it's not as important to them as it is minorities. Recent inquiries as to why combat units are disproportionally white concluded that white kids are there more for the adventure and patriotic feelings, minorities take the less dangerous support positions and tend to stick it out as a career.

The military budget is mainly pay and services for people, look it up.
 
While I can agree that Koreans should defend Korea, the liberal populist illusions are more rampant than ever. It's always the money thats in the military thats the difference maker which would turn society around. It doesn't matter that we have a department of energy that has poured countless tens of billions into alternate energy for the last 30 years, it doesn't matter that we already spend more per student than most anybody in the world, it doesn't matter that the social budget in 2010 is quadruple the defense budget... if only, if only, (start the John Lennon music) we could just make bridges instead of F-22s.

Can you people be any dumber?
 
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