WORLD EXCLUSIVE : The point of no return is just days away
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Oh come on Ric! Look at the impressive words he used! Isn't that enough to counter the opinion of all the world's experts on the matter?
Hehe, well we're not doing anything about the matter here anyway. Like I say, the world is moving on as if AGW is fact. We're away from the table, out of the boardroom and outta the loop.
By the way, re the argument we constantly hear, that you shouldn't be in your line of work because it releases even more GHG, hasn't your technology evolved over time? I'd be surprised to hear your industry hasn't done a thing.
his industry replaced CO2 with a greenhouse gas 2000 times more powerful partially in response to global nutter scares and irrational govt regulation.
do you and fraudcurrents not understand anything about our climate system, negative feedbacks and scientific fact that co2 is also a coolant?
I'm not the best one to try and answer these questions. We need an expert on heat transfer. But I would guess that via your metabolism you are constantly combusting the fuel in your body to supply heat and your blanket, being a poor thermal conductor is decreasing the rate of heat exchange with your body's surroundings.
Miskolczi's paper has of course attracted a lot of attention. There was a long discussion thread on Roy Spencers blog in 2010. http://www.drroyspencer.com/2010/08/comments-on-miskolczi’s-2010-controversial-greenhouse-theory/ the Aug 6, 2010 , post from Stephen Wilde somewhat expresses my own views. If you do a google on Ferenc Miskolczi you will turn up quite a bit of comment and discussion.
This was interesting: http://www.examiner.com/article/for...fends-theory-refuting-global-warming-doctrine
This details the efforts to keep his work out of the public eye, even though his papers are in recognized, peer reviewed journals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ferenc_Miskolczi
Here is a link to his 2014 paper published in "Earth Science". http://edberry.com/SiteDocs/PDF/Miskolczi_2015.pdf
Hansen's boys don't like it when one of their own disagrees: (my comment)
NASA silenced Ferenc Miskolczi on his GHG research
by Dr Miklos Zagoni, Physicist, Budapest, Hungary, 31 Dec, 2009
In 2004, Dr. Ferenc Miskolczi published a paper “The greenhouse effect and the spectral decomposition of the clear-sky terrestrial radiation“, in the Quarterly Journal of the Hungarian Meteorological Service (Vol. 108, No. 4, October–December 2004, pp. 209–251.).
The co-author of the article was his boss at NASA (Martin Mlynczak). Mlynczak put his name to the paper but did no work on it. He thought that it was an important paper, but only in a technical way.
When Miskolczi later informed the group at NASA there that he had more important results, they finally understood the whole story, and tried to withhold Miskolczi’s further material from publication. His boss for example, sat at Ferenc’s computer, logged in with Ferenc’s password, and canceled a recently submitted paper from a high-reputation journal as if Ferenc had withdrawn it himself. That was the reason that Ferenc finally resigned from his ($US 90.000 /year) job.
I want to make it clear: NASA never falsified or even tried to falsify Ferenc’s results, on the contrary, they fully understand it. They know that it is correct and see how important it is. To make sense of their actions, they probably see a national security issue in it. Perhaps they think that AGW is the only way to stop, or to slow, the coal-based growth of China.
In my circumstance where I have been dismissed from my Government paid position in Hungary, I think the information vacuum (in Hungary), has the same type of origin. I believe someone is in the background trying to convince the establishment (media, science, politics) that Miskolczi’s results are against our national security interests.
First, they tried to frighten me, and then when that did not work, they kicked me out from my job. So now I am turning to the wider internet to publicize Miskolczi’s work, as I know that his results are valid and true. There is no way and no need to hold them back for the world to understand them.
Tomorrow, for the first time in my life, I am jobless.
NASA silenced Ferenc Miskolczi on his GHG research
by Dr Miklos Zagoni, Physicist, Budapest, Hungary, 31 Dec, 2009
In 2004, Dr. Ferenc Miskolczi published a paper “The greenhouse effect and the spectral decomposition of the clear-sky terrestrial radiation“, in the Quarterly Journal of the Hungarian Meteorological Service (Vol. 108, No. 4, October–December 2004, pp. 209–251.).
The co-author of the article was his boss at NASA (Martin Mlynczak). Mlynczak put his name to the paper but did no work on it. He thought that it was an important paper, but only in a technical way.
When Miskolczi later informed the group at NASA there that he had more important results, they finally understood the whole story, and tried to withhold Miskolczi’s further material from publication. His boss for example, sat at Ferenc’s computer, logged in with Ferenc’s password, and canceled a recently submitted paper from a high-reputation journal as if Ferenc had withdrawn it himself. That was the reason that Ferenc finally resigned from his ($US 90.000 /year) job.
I want to make it clear: NASA never falsified or even tried to falsify Ferenc’s results, on the contrary, they fully understand it. They know that it is correct and see how important it is. To make sense of their actions, they probably see a national security issue in it. Perhaps they think that AGW is the only way to stop, or to slow, the coal-based growth of China.
In my circumstance where I have been dismissed from my Government paid position in Hungary, I think the information vacuum (in Hungary), has the same type of origin. I believe someone is in the background trying to convince the establishment (media, science, politics) that Miskolczi’s results are against our national security interests.
First, they tried to frighten me, and then when that did not work, they kicked me out from my job. So now I am turning to the wider internet to publicize Miskolczi’s work, as I know that his results are valid and true. There is no way and no need to hold them back for the world to understand them.
Tomorrow, for the first time in my life, I am jobless.
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is it hard to understand that blocking warming at 60000 feet could keep you cooler down here.
the underwater vents and volcanoes do seem to be heating the ocean... and melting polar ice.
but that is our sides points... not yours. We don't know that we are warming outside natural variation.
the underwater vents and volcanoes do seem to be heating the ocean... and melting polar ice.
but that is our sides points... not yours. We don't know that we are warming outside natural variation.
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