How theocratic (and embarrassing) if true.
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Workers In Tennessee Forced To Take Muslim Holiday Instead Of Labor Day
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Quote from Thunderdog:
How theocratic (and embarrassing) if true.
I find it odd - that people try and insist that Christianity was not firmly enmeshed with the freedoms that were forged in the United States.
Their revisionist history is so wrong an so dangerous.
People seem to hate lawyers and Christians. They are even so stupid as to condemn lawyers with shakespeares quote - the first thing you have to do is kill all the lawyers.
In my opinion what the dopes of the world do not understand is that lawyers and the rule of law they demand are one prong of protection against overzealous government and that Christianity was and now along with the Catholic Church is another prong in the protections we have against Government oppression.
Only people ignorant of history and recent events do not realize it.
The Pope - (who I do not necessarily respect as great Pope for Catholics) was a great force in helping the Eastern block clear itself of Communism repressions.
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The Christians who attend the constitutional convention and Christian voters who ratified the Constitution put in a framework of laws which allowed people to worship as they please among the other freeedoms they forged.
This was a tremendous accomplishment. Yet we have dopes saying it was not part of the accomplishments of Christians in the United States.
They do not even want to admit Christianity was large part of our government and our institutions. When you point out historical facts to them they deny it or come up with ridiculous arguments.
Some people just want to hate and will go to any lengths to change history.
Quote from stu:
The Constitution , the single most important legal documant, is the grounding for The Law of the United States - the supreme law of the land. I feel sure you are aware state courts are bound by the supreme law. State offices too.
No amount of fundemntalist Christian idealogue is going to alter that fact.Exactly how do you <s>twist</s> explain "... no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust..." is referring only to the requirement to take an oath!?Right, so now we have 3 examples of where religious test is found Unconstitutional . Article VI, First and Fourteenth Amendments.
Ok then, now what? You shot your own argument dead.
Well, you're hopelessly confused. Go back and read what I wrote. Article VI does not apply to states. They based the decision on the First Amendment. You don't seem to appreciate the fact that it took the Supreme Court until the 1960's to "discover" this supposed constitutional rule. It is more an example of judicial law making than constitutional imperative.
It is the religiously encumbered who know all about hate. They are the ones who are convinced that everyone else is going to hell. Those are the seeds of division. Hate thrives on division. Ask any fundamentalist how he regards those unlike him. Better yet, just observe.Quote from jem:
...Some people just want to hate...
The confusion is all yours. You cannot say Article VI does not apply to states for any judicial reason. That is made clear by the Supreme Court ruling YOU posted. Only by a twist that the Constitution reference to United States does not mean states - do you rely on that ridiculous position.Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
Well, you're hopelessly confused. Go back and read what I wrote. Article VI does not apply to states. They based the decision on the First Amendment. You don't seem to appreciate the fact that it took the Supreme Court until the 1960's to "discover" this supposed constitutional rule. It is more an example of judicial law making than constitutional imperative.
The Court found two other reasons in the Constitution to declare the religious test unlawful by the Constitution.
Article VI is clear. The Clause is clear. No religious tests for ANY office clear. To all but the christian evagelical extremist.
Facts for your pinhead
Here is my quote
"Perhaps you need to read a history book.
Before the an activist supreme court started ripping religion out of the public sphere in 1950 Christianity was so deeply ingrained in America that it was taught in Public schools and in many states you could not hold office if you did not profess a belief in God or Jesus.
I could give you cites and lists but for you it will not matter."
Fact
AAA supplied with a Case from 1960 in which a State was still requiring an atheist to affirm his belief in God.
Fact-this case proves my point.
Religion supported by states
Activists supreme courts ripping Religion out of public sphere.
Only Stu would still be arguing because he such an irrational little atheist.
Here is my quote
"Perhaps you need to read a history book.
Before the an activist supreme court started ripping religion out of the public sphere in 1950 Christianity was so deeply ingrained in America that it was taught in Public schools and in many states you could not hold office if you did not profess a belief in God or Jesus.
I could give you cites and lists but for you it will not matter."
Fact
AAA supplied with a Case from 1960 in which a State was still requiring an atheist to affirm his belief in God.
Fact-this case proves my point.
Religion supported by states
Activists supreme courts ripping Religion out of public sphere.
Only Stu would still be arguing because he such an irrational little atheist.