Winter of 2009-2010 Could Be Worst in 25 Years

[Ricter]

Quote from Lucrum:

Here in Tampa it's going to be 18 F below normal today

Yeah, we sent that weather your way earlier, glad to see you got it. When it was here though, it wasn't far out of normal. Good winds got it to you in good shape.

Rained here in mid-November. Very unusual.

 

[drjekyllus]

Quote from Ricter:



Rained here in mid-November. Very unusual.

It must be humans fault.

 

[Arnie]

Quote from drjekyllus:

It does not matter anyway. The Earth's climate has always changed and it will continue to change. There is no one who is claiming that the Earth's climate is static. With that being said the Earth has a roughly 50% chance of being in a state of warming at any given time. Factor in the fact that the Earth has had a warming bias it really would be no surprise for the Earth to get warmer at all. In trader talk, the global warming people are considered trend followers.

Changes in climate do not mean that humans were responsible. The Earth's climate has changed for billions of years. Now for some reason any changes that occured over the last 130 years are attributed to humans. That argument makes no sense and there is no precedence for it.

Good post.

I would add that at best, the GW studies only show a correlation between C02 and warming. None of them prove that C02 causes GW. In fact if you go back and look at the graph, many times it shows temps peaking BEFORE C02. If C02 is "causing" GW, shouldn't C02 peak before the temps do? I'm sure the AGW zealots have an answer for that. Also notice how that graph is compressed so this little discrepancy isn't so noticeable.

 

[4444CJones4444]

Quote from Arnie:

Good post.

I would add that at best, the GW studies only show a correlation between C02 and warming. None of them prove that C02 causes GW. In fact if you go back and look at the graph, many times it shows temps peaking BEFORE C02. If C02 is "causing" GW, shouldn't C02 peak before the temps do? I'm sure the AGW zealots have an answer for that. Also notice how that graph is compressed so this little discrepancy isn't so noticeable.

Apparently c02 can lag a temperature spike by as much as 1000 years. Their explanation for this phenomenon is c02 wasn't the initial catalyst for the temperature rise, but once the rise in temperature began, c02 became part of a feedback loop. Warmer oceans release dissolved gasses, which increases c02 concentrations in the atmosphere, which causes warmer temperatures and so on. I find it interesting that the current global warming theory ignores the possibility a similar scenario has contributed to the current rise in temperature (well, not current. It's dropped over the last decade due to the natural ebb and flow of the climate. At least they hope it's ebb and flow. No one really knows one way or the other).

Human nature says we have to blame ourselves first, I guess. Village elders used to tell us droughts, floods and other natural disasters happen because we made the gods angry. It seems we angered them again. I'm going to do my part and sacrifice a chicken (or as Al said, reduce my carbon footprint) every day this week. I'm freezing my ass off.

 

[loik]

Quote from Gabfly1:

Nothing quite so warms my cocoa as a quorum of ET's resident scientists denying climate change. Who could possibly compete with that kind of horsepower? Certainly not the overwhelming majority of the planet's remaining scientists.

The climate does change, the question is if it`s induced by humans.

 

[peilthetraveler]

Quote from 4444CJones4444:

Village elders used to tell us droughts, floods and other natural disasters happen because we made the gods angry. It seems we angered them again. I'm going to do my part and sacrifice a chicken (or as Al said, reduce my carbon footprint) every day this week. I'm freezing my ass off.

Thats so idiotic. Everyone knows you have to be a high priest for your sacrifice to be accepted. You are just wasting valuable chickens.

 

[tmarket]

What is the fuss all about? It is pretty balmy

 

[4444CJones4444]

Quote from peilthetraveler:

...You are just wasting valuable chickens.

 

[TGregg]

Quote from peilthetraveler:

Thats so idiotic. Everyone knows you have to be a high priest for your sacrifice to be accepted. You are just wasting valuable chickens.

Goats on the other hand work for nonprofessionals. Numerous studies have proved and all scientists agree that a few monthly goat sacrifices are just the ticket for pleasing the gods.

 

[tmarket]

Quote from Mom0/pH0x:

it's not winter down there in the south hemisphere

So you mean there is a difference between weather and climate. I could have sworn some of us were just standing on our heads.