None of this is in dispute. Now run the mask usage, lockdowns, no school attendance, etc...through the Method.
Or Global Warming or brand new, barely tested vaccines, or the other stuff you said was all settled.
Winter is Coming - the COVID chronicles
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None of this is in dispute. Now run the mask usage, lockdowns, no school attendance, etc...through the Method.
Or Global Warming or brand new, barely tested vaccines, or the other stuff you said was all settled.
All of those who died with Cancer, heart disease, diabetes, morbidly obese, chronic respiratory issues, every single one of those should, at a minimum, have an asterisk next to the cause of death being Covid related. The number of otherwise reasonably healthy people dying a pure Covid death is under 100,000. Probably a lot less than that. You can dispute my conjecture by posting actual details of each and every death that is listed as Covid. I know, you know, we all know that they have these specific details. Why aren't they being broken down each and every day so we the public can determine our actual risk? We all know the answer to that as well.
No shit einstein. How much of an increase is the relevant question. The overwhelming majority of people dying have these comorbidities. These people have always been high risk, this year, last year, ten years ago, 110 fucking years ago. Nothing has changed except the political narrative. Nothing. Risk of dying from Covid for otherwise healthy people is near absolute zero. That is indisputable.
Likewise the risk of healthy people dying of the flu is near absolute zero.
Should we discount the deaths of thousands of people simply because they had risk factors.
Gents, I may have heard it wrong. If so, my apologies. I only listen for snippets of news from time to time during RTH. I understood it as being a brand new statistic; perhaps a one-day number of deaths compared to other causes of death, rather than a cumulative thing over the course of a year. But now I'm making stuff up as I go along, so I'll stop right there.
We should not discount the deaths of people because of risk factors. It has to be apples to apples.
Keeping in mind for COVID (as well as the flu & other diseases) -- the cause of death is normally what the person died of directly such as a respiratory failure, heart attack, etc. rather than COVID on the death certificate. COVID may be listed as a contributing factor. However the reality is that the person would not have died at that time if they did not catch COVID.
This could be said for the flu as well. Or other cold viruses, or pneumonia. Or hell, cancer. If they didn't get cancer they wouldn't have died, too.
That's only comforting if you don't get it. If you do, there can still be long term consequences from the virus, provided you're one of the healthy people who doesn't die from it. And so what is your point, anyway? Just because healthy people don't die from it, we shouldn't give a shit? Most people evidently have some kind of an underlying condition. And even if they didn't, there should still be some kind of moral code to do no harm to our fellow members of society.
That's like saying that we should not count deaths who contracted HIV and developed AIDS because the flu killed them.
You guys, genius over here just found the cure to HIV