winners and losers under hyperinflation in Germany

Quote from Mr Pain:

Yes what he asked. was wealth preserved in stocks?

It went up 1000's of % in local currency but collapsed from 100 to 2 in hard foreign currency.
 
We saw something similar in Turkey, 1982-2005.

Their stock market went up over 2,000,000% during that time. But even those who were long for the entire ride still lost 98% of their buying power when the currency was revalued.

At the peak of inflation, a cup of coffee cost $3,000,000.00

Someone in an earlier post mentioned "those who got rich" during the inflation. I can't even imagine who that might be or how they did it. (Actually, I doubt anyone did... just seems like "somebody" should have during all that turmoil.)

Big inflation bankrupts nearly 100% of the citizenry...
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

We saw something similar in Turkey, 1982-2005.

Their stock market went up over 2,000,000% during that time. But even those who were long for the entire ride still lost 98% of their buying power when the currency was revalued.

At the peak of inflation, a cup of coffee cost $3,000,000.00

Someone in an earlier post mentioned "those who got rich" during the inflation. I can't even imagine who that might be or how they did it. (Actually, I doubt anyone did... just seems like "somebody" should have during all that turmoil.)

Big inflation bankrupts nearly 100% of the citizenry...

I've read a story how one guy bought an entire 5 floor hotel for 1 golden ounce...

Would that qualify as coming out as a winner in your book?

But apart from that, obviously I agree.
 
Quote from Mr Pain:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

I think we are past the tipping point. We will have 1T in new debt in 7 months. There is no easy or responsible way out now. We as a country are the same as the folks living of their home equity loans doing cash outs every year to keep the façade up. I know I am sitting on a bunch of cash and am not sure what to do. I don’t trust bonds, cash or stocks now. I should just buy real-estate I guess but that is still dropping I think. I have 20% in gold.

I have been looking into historical cases to see what might be a safer way.

The US may be intellectually past the 'tipping point', but as long as it can find buyers for Treasuries (mainly Asian central banks) then the game can continue.

I'd be more concerned about the PIIGS being past the tipping point, and what happens if and when holders of PIIGS govt debt are forced to take haircuts on their bonds.
 
Quote from Mr Pain:

Yes what he asked. was wealth preserved in stocks?

At the beginning of 1922, the German stock market was about 750

At it's peak in november of 1923, it was 26,890,000

Beginning of 1922 10 marks = 1 dollar

Nov of 1923 4 trillion marks = 1 dollar :eek:
 
Quote from m22au:

The US may be intellectually past the 'tipping point', but as long as it can find buyers for Treasuries (mainly Asian central banks) then the game can continue.

do you honestly believe Asians are stupid like they are shown in 1980s Hollywood movies.

They won't be buying forever. There was a leak 9 months ago that FED is buying its own bonds incognito

I'll see if I can dig it up from ET underbelly
 
Quote from jordanf:

At the beginning of 1922, the German stock market was about 750

At it's peak in november of 1923, it was 26,890,000

Beginning of 1922 10 marks = 1 dollar

Nov of 1923 4 trillion marks = 1 dollar :eek:

Wow indeed. Stocks went up x 35,853.33, Marks went down by x 400billion.
 
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