Windows 7 vulnerable to 8 out of 10 viruses !!!

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Yeah sure, we don't know what we are talking about... I was writing diagnostics for a Mini Computer in 1975 and watched the whole world of computing unfold over 4 decades as a high tech worker....
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You associate the community with yourself. That's interesting.

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Windows was not designed for networking in the first place. It's very badly designed for networking, in fact... Unix was designed for networking from the get go and Apple's OS is based on Unix ideas...
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I've worked my entire adult life with Unix systems so I'm aware of the issues.

Given that IBM's As/400 was designated "Unix" the definition can run pretty wide. But I don't have an issue with AAPL's technology per se. Rather I object to their anti-competitive and therefore anti-consumer ways. The same is true of MSFT although it's generally accepted that Windows is a disaster on the server side compared to the Unix model. However, I have softened my stance on MSFT given what they've done with the .Net framework, ie. their technology is getting better and more open.

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Windows behind a whitelisting firewall for business only, MAC for the internet... I'm not at all wrong about this. Win 7 gives a pc the look and feel of a MAC but not the networking security...
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Agreed, but it doesn't mean that MSFT/Windows is crap. Life's never black and white. That's all I'm saying.

Thx
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It's an editorial "we"...

I don't even want the lines blurred between Windows and Unix / Apple really... Windows is not now nor, apparently, will it ever be "internet ready". We should give up the ongoing deception that comes out of Microsoft and the blacklisting industry regarding security... it won't ever be secure. A whitelisting firewall doesn't even guarantee security, it is a big step in the right direction though and basically the only real solution for a Windows machine... I didn't realize that until the day I set up my Hotbrick to whitelist in only the few url's needed for trading... it's an epiphany that many could benefit from... even if a rogue programmer put code in the TWS to upload my intellectual property to his site, it can't happen, my firewall will block the upload...

I don't think I'm going to be happy with my computers here until I swap out this surfing box for an Apple.. or even Linux but wow, the Apple runs fine out of the crate....
 
I will stick with XP Pro and my hardware firewall. I have seen insufficient reason to upgrade to the newest bugs, bells and memory-hogs. I am a trader, and need neither Vista nor Windows 7, as all of my trading software runs quite swimmingly on XP. Every workstation of other traders I have seen is slower executing simple commands and programs than my XP box.
 
Quote from godsome:

Just don't try Win7 then go back to XP.. it's like running a pig.. 7 screams

Horses for courses though.. I've gone to a lot of trouble to have a blindingly fast and silent system with $1000 graphics cards and solid state hard drives.. XP becomes a bottle neck at that level..

But of course you don't need all that to trade
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I don't have a W 7 .
In your opinion, is the out of the box W7 faster then XP for ordinary web surfing and one platform/account tradidng ?
Is it possible to strip W7 out of neccessary start ups like it was done with Vista ?
Thanks
 
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I don't think I'm going to be happy with my computers here until I swap out this surfing box for an Apple.. or even Linux but wow, the Apple runs fine out of the crate....
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Which is fair enough. It's applications that have driven Windows domination up until now, which is why I run a Windows desktop. As your issues are more with MSFT than with Vista then ditching XP and going to some other platform is pretty much a no brainer.

I agree that Windows does have several legacy issues. Technically, there is no reason that they cannot be overcome. But with a company like MSFT that is most likely a highly politics (corporate strategy) dependent decision and results process.

It's my view that the changing dynamics of the tech industry are undermining some of the key strengths of Windows and so may force a major strategic reworking of their OS. When might be? Who knows. But if their hand is forced I wouldn't put it past them to get it right. The last few years have shown that MSFT can produce very good technology when they focus their resources in the right way.


Thx
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Quote from godsome:

I don't know if you are an enthusiast but if you are you'll know what I mean by everything just snaps.. it's buttery smooth.. I couldn't say it's any faster for trading but everything just opens quicker, reboots quicker and loads quicker.
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Your opinion of it's performance doesn't jive with most every performance comparison that's ever been done...

"The verdict? Windows 7 makes some performance strides over Vista, though in some cases we saw no clear-cut winner, and in one area Windows 7 lagged considerably behind its predecessor."

http://www.pcworld.com/article/172509/windows_7_performance_tests.html

"To me, it looks as though Windows Xp is still the best choice for an operating system. Sure the others look nicer, but in terms of performance I think Xp is the one to go with on average."

http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/information/windows-xp-vs-vista-vs-7/

"7 vs. XP

If Windows 7 wasn’t meant to light a fire under Vista users, then it’s XP users that are the target. Microsoft couldn’t get them to move to Vista, so this is their second and possibly last real chance to move them before they become their own permanent faction of die-hard users. And to be frank, if Win7 succeeds here, it’s not going to be because of technical measures."

http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3666

"In a set of comprehensive Windows Web browser performance tests conducted by Betanews on August 7 -- our first test of browsers running on the final Windows 7 RTM Build 7600 distributed by Microsoft yesterday -- the five major families of browsers tended to run 13% faster on Windows XP Service Pack 3 than on Windows 7, and 29% faster than on Windows Vista Service Pack 2."

http://www.betanews.com/article/Windows-XP-SP3-runs-browsers-13-faster-than-Windows-7-RTM/1249687071

There are plenty of other comparisons out there, with a similar conclusion, Win7 is faster than Vista, but slower than XP.
 
Quote from maxpi:

I'll get a MAC for the internet eventually.
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If all you want is a web-surfing box, then save your money and run a Linux distro, or OpenSolaris, or Net/FreeBSD. If you really must, you can even install OSX on the right PC hardware for a fraction of the cost (Google Hackintosh). The Snow Leopard DVD is quite cheap.
 
Quote from vhehn:

i havent used anti virus software since the win 98 days. havent had any problems with win 2000,xp, and now vista on 3 diff machines. i do run adware every now and then to clean out the tracking cookies.
i think anti virus software slows things down too much for my taste.
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ditto.

I'm beginning to think its all one big scam to create a software security industry.

And if anyone wants to hack a computer bad enough , they probably can find a way.

btw I can't think of a good reason to upgrade to Win7. other than it comes with a new machine.

And why the fok are we paying for basic upgrade maintenance of a product anyways?? poc msft:D
 
Quote from godsome:

Well I'm not here to "jive" with their opinion.. but I'll give you mine.. it's faster than XP.. a lot faster
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That is most likely your perception, the numbers indicate otherwise...
 
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