Will the U.S. Get LBOed?

Quote from risktaker:

Have you been overseas lately? How much did you buy with your $?

I'm in California and frankly, the freeways here nowadays are full of potholes. They look a LOT worse than many other countries' roads.

Recently, there was a fire on some overpass in Oakland and the cost to repair it would be $70 million. Well for a state this size, supposedly the governor would have to declare a state of emergency to be able to come up with the funds to fix pronto.

I remember when California used to have beautiful freeways all over the place, plenty of money and was admired overseas. Not today. It's now a me too state/economy.

US gov DID assist other poor countries in the past, notice I said past. Not today. Not much anyway. The US is the worlds largest debtor. Countries like Brazil used to be in that spot. They've been working their way out of that spot for the last 30 years.

But Americans have somehow cultivated this image of "were better, more powerful, richer, smarter, etc, than them" which except for the more powerful is no longer true. Even worse 90% of the population is in this fantasy land and refuses to wake up.

The only people who still wish to come to the US today are dirt poor Mexicans, Iraqis, poor Asian nations as well as African.

Tell me how many have come here in the last 20 years from Western Europe, Japan, Australia, or rich Arab countries to work?

Only the poor come over since they have a better work ethic than American citizens.

Sorry to disappoint but it's the truth.

Actually, US does still assist overseas.

However, much of the assistance comes in the form of dollars that are wired home to whatever country by the illegal immigrants who are working here.

Tacit complicity exists despite half-hearted attempts at enforcement.

So, we have our own latin american aid program while at the same time keeping wages low.

See :D Your beauracracy working for you.
 
If I've said it once I've said it 10,000 times.....never in the history of the world has so much debt ever been repaid. This will be no exception.

The type of debt that the US owes the world WILL be 1) repudiated or 2) inflated away.

No other option exists. Invest/Trade accordingly.
 
Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

If I've said it once I've said it 10,000 times.....never in the history of the world has so much debt ever been repaid. This will be no exception.

The type of debt that the US owes the world WILL be 1) repudiated or 2) inflated away.

No other option exists. Invest/Trade accordingly.

Oh I am with you there now, I in no form or fashion think the US will ever pay off its debt.

I am just saying all these idiots think that the US is magically somehow not still an extremely powerful nation. That is totally ignorant. US has BY FAR the most powerful military on Earth. I have been assigned to joint efforts with other foreign militaries....I'm just saying...don't be ridiculous when you say stuff about the US being finished. LOL

That's like saying Mike Tyson couldn't kick your ass just because he's blown all of his one-time vast fortune.
 
Most of the those idiots are still trying figure out how their RM boarding party got taken hostage by Iran without a shot being fired.

These days...Limeys suck dick for beer money.



Quote from TheDarkness:

Oh I am with you there now, I in no form or fashion think the US will ever pay off its debt.

I am just saying all these idiots think that the US is magically somehow not still an extremely powerful nation. That is totally ignorant. US has BY FAR the most powerful military on Earth. I have been assigned to joint efforts with other foreign militaries....I'm just saying...don't be ridiculous when you say stuff about the US being finished. LOL

That's like saying Mike Tyson couldn't kick your ass just because he's blown all of his one-time vast fortune.
 
Quote from Hydroblunt:

Good luck convincing ANY corporation to reinstate an industrial/manufacturing base in USA.



No, because poverty wages here is like a decent standard of living for them. Until they get caught up in the mess and realize that their lives have not really improved.

poor illegals, they risk their lives and walk a 1000 miles to get here only to get paid in dollars....

Mexico my erect its own fence to keep out boomer retirees....
 
Quote from daddyeaux:

poor illegals, they risk their lives and walk a 1000 miles to get here only to get paid in dollars....

Mexico my erect its own fence to keep out boomer retirees....

I hate to say it but the peso is one of the few currencies struggling against the dollar!
 
Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

If I've said it once I've said it 10,000 times.....never in the history of the world has so much debt ever been repaid. This will be no exception.

The type of debt that the US owes the world WILL be 1) repudiated or 2) inflated away.

No other option exists. Invest/Trade accordingly.

The dollar will fall until a lot of this takes care of itself...
 
Quote from ASusilovic:

China and the Gulf states are hungry, and they've just sat down for an American buffet. In the last few months alone, state-affiliated funds and companies have taken bites of American icons, picking up small stakes in Advanced Micro Devices, MGM Mirage, Nasdaq Stock Market, Blackstone Group and Bear Stearns.

The deals were designed to be small enough to avoid scrutiny from the U.S. government. This conveniently played into the hands of sellers, who were able to offload pricey positions while giving virtually nothing in return, such as board seats or veto rights.

But the mergers-and-acquisitions story of 2008 will be how these foreign sovereign funds -- sitting on an estimated $2 trillion to $3 trillion of reserves -- direct their appetites. Fattened by the U.S.'s own trade imbalances and encouraged by favorable currency rates, they aren't likely to stay so compliant for long. Further down the buffet line sit entire U.S. companies.

Seven sovereign funds, including those of Abu Dhabi, Kuwait, China, Singapore and Russia, now sit on piles greater than $100 billion. Outside the U.S., these funds have proven more adventuresome, with a Dubai company recently moving to take ownership of the airport in Auckland, New Zealand.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119552149452198640.html?mod=mktw

From reading this thread, I think many of you may be missing the main point of foreign buyouts: multinational interdependence as a way of peace. (Btw, I don't necessarily agree with this - I'm just telling you how many of the elite think and act.)

Let me offer a quote from a Wharton paper:

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache...ignity+multinational&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

"The dramatic expansion of the Multinational Enterprise (MNE) after 1960 produced a 'first wave' of literature in the popular and academic press...Suddenly, it seems the sovereign states are feeling naked. Concepts such as sovereignty and national economic strength appear curiously drained of meaning."

And consider these quotes

--Charles Kindleberger: "[the] nation-state is just about through as an economic unit."
--George Ball: "[the multinational corporation is] a modern concept evolved to meet the requirements of the modern age and the nation-state is a very old-fashioned idea and badly adapted to serve the needs of our present complex world".

In the eyes of many insiders, the mulitnational is placed on a pedestal and seen as a Bringer of Life, a Harbinger of Peace. If we interconnect the world through interdependence - and again 'interdependence' is the buzzword - we can finally achieve global peace. Again, to quote the above link:

"In 1991 John Stopford and Susan Strange argued that upheavals in the international political economy had resulted in a mutual interdependence which limits state's options...", i.e. war and other undesireable features of federal governments.

So imo you can forget about the US or any other major country ever "disentangling" itself from foreign multinational alliances because this is the very goal of many of our elites.

Example: If China, Russia and Saudi Arabia own a huge portion of our infrastructure, then they are much less likely to nuke us or fund terrorist activities. In fact, they will probably help us search out and destroy such enemies. Why do you think that terrorism has not spread more rapidly? It is undoubtedly because many of the wealthy Arabic elite have huge financial interests in the West.

This aspect of globalization is completely unavoidable at this point in the world's history and I have no doubt that the world will be a very different place geopolicially in a hundred years.

Here's a well-known quote from the "presitigous" Council on Foreign Relations member Gardner in 1974: ""The 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up. ... An end run around sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault." "

The goal, by many at the top, is to slowly erode the nation state as we know it, using economic interdependence in order to create global peace and prosperity.
 
?.......!.......Suss, when sovereign wealth funds start making large scale purchases of foreign assets, it usually occurs at long-term tops in the sovereign country and the foreign country. You guessed it!
 
Quote from nazzdack:

?.......!.......Suss, when sovereign wealth funds start making large scale purchases of foreign assets, it usually occurs at long-term tops in the sovereign country and the foreign country. You guessed it!

Thank you nazzdack ! Just needed confirmation ! :p :p :p
 
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