Will the market plunge if (or when) Obama gets elected as Dem candidate?

However can you imagine what we could've done with a trillion $$ in public investment? We could have put Saudi and Iran and Venezuela out of business forever.

It's simply tragic.

Quote from newbunch:

We haven't had an intelligent energy policy since Eisenhower. Let's blame Bush.
 
OMG, a regular Robin Hood. How well have hand outs worked in the past? Last I checked ABOUSHI, we have made somewhere around $7 trillion USD in wealth redistribution or transfer payments to the poor during the aclaimed "War on Poverty" and where has it got us? Is there still poverty in the US? How could that be? Additionally, how many poor people can afford to create jobs or businesses? How many homeless folks have signed your paycheck? Hand outs don't work; do some homework before deriding people's economic competency. Another thing; why would companies increase their FDI? Could it be that it's way too expensive and cost prohibitive to set up shop domestically or could regulatory, licensing, and compliance costs add massive layers to cost strucutres and gouging tax rates diminish returns? If you are so concerned about FDI, then give corporations insentives in the form of relaxed government and regulatory intervention in how they run their businesses.
 
Quote from newbunch:

We haven't had an intelligent energy policy since Eisenhower. Let's blame Bush.

You're right but he is the leadership and we have had much more of an impetus to make some serious changes to our energy policy since he's been in office. Some of the energy issue is his doing with the invasion of Iraq and subsequent empowering of Iran (and the potential danger of Iraq/Iran morphing to one superpower as Iran helps 'fill the void' in Iraq) - the general unease regarding supply.

I know we're going nowhere with this thread but I'll just say that I'm prepared to support whoever is elected (FWIW) - I am sick and tired of the devisiveness and cynical sniping in this country and am ready for and support both 'sides' sitting down and hashing out the big issues.

In other words, I want change.
 
Oh, that is a scary comment. It sent chills down my spine. The last time I heard that excuse was back in 2000 and 2004 when they were justifying a vote for Bush. Yikes!!

Quote from heywally:

I'm sure you're right - my hope with Obama though (and I'm skeptical of the Dems ability to win back the Presidency simply because they've been as inept as anyone) is that he's smart enough to know what he doesn't know (a tough skill) and will be able to surround himself with smart economic people (actually, I wish he'd start hinting at that in his speeches). Fingers crossed.
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

So you think the market randomly bottomed the same month we entered Iraq?

No, but it was phony-baloney. We've seen the "money-pump" side of the equation (inflation, huge increase in national debt, etc), but we haven't seen the "piper gets paid" part yet... probably won't be recognized when we do. Somebody else will end up taking the blame for the burden he left us.
 
Sell the rumor ..buy the fact?
:D

Seriously though modern war generally removes uncertainty It was the same in '91

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

So you think the market randomly bottomed the same month we entered Iraq?
 
The counter-idea is that the poor are actually productive citizens, and if you give them money they will go from working two jobs down to one, or from one job to simply unemployed. Also, the poor's demand of food is really inelastic, so giving them money does not increase food spending, and that their discretionary spending is on crap that doesn't really help the economy. Further, if the poor have more money they'll have more free time, and thus crime will go up... The list goes on and on...

Full disclosure: I am poor.

Quote from Aboushi:

I hate what people on ET post in regards to politics just because it will effect their pocket in the short run. This kind of thinking will bring an end to our way of life.

Obama's tax increase might put money in the hands of the poor. But the poor bastards will spend it here in the states and revive our economy. If we give tax cuts to corporations, they might or might not reinveted here, or they could bulk their FDI.

Please, don't talk economics if you don't know what you are talking about.
 
Ironically it was his father who took the blame when the mismanagement of the Reagan years first began to be recognized.

btw, could not agree more with the gnome on this point.

Quote from gnome:

No, but it was phony-baloney. We've seen the "money-pump" side of the equation (inflation, huge increase in national debt, etc), but we haven't seen the "piper gets paid" part yet... probably won't be recognized when we do. Somebody else will end up taking the blame for the burden he left us.
 
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