Will Capitalism Survive/Fix This?

[piezoe]

[QUOTE="gkishot, post: 4369837, member: 38141"
Taxation is the only leverage the left wingers have & can use against capitalism.
+ just as important is regulation. business can be regulated to death which is the goal of the Left.

Yes. That makes sense. Of course, the left wants to wreck business. How best to do it then? It's obvious, tax it to death and regulate it to death. Next question.

 

[zdreg]

+ just as important is regulation. business can be regulated to death which is the goal of the Left.

Yes. That makes sense. Of course, the left wants to wreck business.[/QUOTE]
it is hyperbole but try hamstring or hijack business to serve their nefarious goals.

 

[piezoe]

Sure, but I just want to get everyone to get on the page at least that neither Capitalism or Socialism is inherently "BAD" or "GOOD," but, as always, relies on implementation.

If you don't stop insisting on making sense your going to get kicked out of this forum.

 

[piezoe]

Sure, they're not static, but they have inertia. Arguably we want to make upward class mobility more fluid. How can we do that?

Subversive thought: You could start by leaving 10 cents worth of capital with the lower middle class. -- Oh, I know I should never have said that. How stupid of me.

 

[piezoe]

Fundamentally, it's very simple... To paraphrase Churchill (who paraphrased someone else): capitalism is the worst system, except for all those other systems that have been tried from time to time.

There's nothing perfect under the sun, because we humans are very imperfect beings. Capitalism is the best compromise we've currently been able to come up with. However, it's stupid to deny that capitalism has flaws. We can just try to make sure that we minimize the negative aspects and achieve the optimal cost/benefit tradeoff.

There is no place for that kind of radical thinking in this forum. Shame on you.

 

[java]

Well that's it then. You're all geniuses. The only minor thing that remains to be determined is whose benefit and whose cost? Silly me. That is such an easy question. My benefit, your cost. Don't know why it took so long to get the right answer, when it is so obvious.

And after the election He spaketh to them not except in parables. (Pentacostal Version.)

 

[CyJackX]

Yes. That makes sense. Of course, the left wants to wreck business.
it is hyperbole but try hamstring or hijack business to serve their nefarious goals.

I'll agree to not call capitalism any more nefarious than socialism, as they're both simply systems that could be poorly implemented by nefarious humans, but I digress.

But, everybody wants business to succeed, nobody wants to hamstring business.
Yes, too high of labor standards will hamstring a business. But, the socialist bent is that too low of labor standards will hamstring business by hamstringing the labor/consumer pool. Nobody can buy products if they're only getting paid pennies per hour, or dying on the job, or can't eat. Even a person who gets a handout, at least that money ends up going back into the economy as opposed to being offshored.
There is a balance.

 

[Humpy]

Somebody did point out that one might as well be pleasant to others when on the way up, because one is going to meet them again on the way down.

 

[Humpy]

AI and automation is certain to make huge numbers of people jobless in the near future.
The Capitalists would dearly love for them to just disappear somewhere but that aint going to happen. So they will have to be paid enough money to pay their way or the whole house of cards will collapse.

 

[luisHK]

He has also recently warned us about the dangers of time travel and that any aliens we meet are likely to be hostile. Man i thought i worried about the unlikely! ;-)

Watching Into the Universe right now, a movie written by Stephen Hawking. Talks a lot about aliens. From what i gather if they visit earth, they will take manufacturing jobs from hard working americans. Be aware.