Will an Oxford Graduate Degree in Pure Math get you interviews for salaried trading?

[FreedomPhighter]

Quote from macal425:



Perhaps an Oxford education may teach you some manners and how to spell the word PLEASE.

Looks like you don't have thick skin there macal425.....if it makes you feel any better "Please Please Please answer the poll.....do I have to beg?"

LOL

 

[candletrader]

You are now a senior member dude... show some respect to the moderators...

 

[FreedomPhighter]

Quote from plumlazy:

Dear Mr. FreedomPhighter,

It sure couldn't hurt. Afterall, going to school and getting not one degree but two shows that you have enough intelligence and fortitude to stick with it. And having looked at your personal profile I see that you got the first one with honors.

So adding a graduate degree should be even better.

I have read most if not all of your other thread. I find a few things rather interesting. First off - out of the Sixteen Thousand Nine Hundred and Fifty Eight registered members of "ET", (albiet some are people with more than one handle and many have come and gone) you sir, are the first one that posted his question to each and every one of the threads on this board at once and as a result we ended up with, "Can a Graduate Degree from Oxford U help me get a salaried position in trading?"
from top to bottom on the homepage. (I've never seen that done before. Maybe you would do well in a marketing career).

Your answer to that display, was that you thought that evey forum was distinct.

Well maybe so, but what if every forum is distinct. Do you realise that it made you look like the biggest case of narcissism to ever enter this website. And what a grand entrance it was !!! (whether you meant to or not)

My first thought was that low and behold, we have once again been graced by the presence of Mr. "Super Ego" ( I suppose you would have had to been here at the time to get the full appreciation of his grand entrance to the ET scene.)

So, I started reading your thread and said, "well he is not "Super Ego" because super ego was much better at flaming than this fellow." I began to notice however, that although you were not out and out flaming anyone, that you did seem to hold yourself above others. I can't really explain it, but I know it when I see it. It appears to me that, in a rather smug little way,
you have been patronizing most of the traders/posters that have responded to you.

Now I admit, that you didn't get a warm reception, but my god man, take a look at how you started posting on this website. Anybody with enough sense to equal that - that god gave a mule knew that you were going to catch some flak for it.

So when you caught some flak, rather than accept it with grace and tact, you bowed up against it. Not in a big huge way. No sir, in more of a sly way.(calling others jealous and such) Well ok, I can see a person doing something like that, no big deal.

What I don't understand is that it seems that you are still doing this. Why is it that you continue to hold yourself so high above others and why sir do you seem to take so much pride in your education.

Nothing wrong with taking pride in your accomplishments, no sir, you go right ahead and do that, afterall, you earned it. It just seems to me that you are taking excessive pride in it. Kind of like that's all that you have to be proud of.

Maybe I'm wrong, I hope so, but that's the impression that I get. That you must be lacking in some other areas in your life that you would take as much pride as you seemingly do in your education. (after all, when I click on your name and read your profile it seems to me that you see yourself as a sum of your academic acheivements) Who else are you?

As the weeks and months go by and you get all of your academic goals accomplished (and I'm sure you will), take some time to reflect on who you are and what other achievements you would like to pursue besides education and career. You are bound to have other attributes that you can expand on to foster your sense of self worth.

If you hang all that self worth out there on education and career, and then jump headfirst into trading, and the market starts chopping some of it off, I fear that you might have a tough time with it.

It really doesn't seem to me that you have been doing all that great of a job at "being humble naturally."

Just a thought.
I really do hope that you acheive all of your goals.

Best regards,

plumlazy

Thanks for the reply. I suppose I have some issues that need to be dealt with. First of all, I am very proud of my educational accomplishments. Such pride must be a function of my family background. Neither of my parents graduated from high school until about five years ago when my mother completed an associates degree and her GED. My father has been a food vendor for nearly 30 years (you know those hotdog wagons you see in NYC?) Above material objects of possession, I value intellectual curiosity because I have found that through education, I am able to stand on equal grounding with my peers most of whom have had a much less modest upbringing. It gives me a great sense of accomplishment when I consider the fact that even people from wealthy families who attended expensive private schools aren't usually provided with the opportunity to study at Oxford ( a.k.a the college of the Queen); when people bash me I assume, perhaps unjustifiably, that it is out of envy and that the people who do such bashing are probably the rich kids who DIDN'T get into Oxford (in other words, whose place I took upon acceptance). Nonetheless, you can see that something pissed people off about my post. You say it was the fact that I posted to many forums; I believed, perhaps erroneously, that it was out of envy. Still, with the many negative responses I am getting from people, I am not completely sure that envy is not the determining factor.

Like I have said in my other post, my primary reason for joining elitetrader.com was to get some answers to my question. Therefore, as you have already pointed out, I only included information in my profile that would pertain to my question. I have many interests not related to my educational or career aspirations. However, I am generally the type of person who filters all unnecessary information as I work toward a specific goal. Thus, as I study toward my MsC I will have only one thing on my mind: Successfully completing the degree requirements. When I trade, I will have only one thing on my mind: successfully trading the market. To be successful at anything worthwhile, one must be willing to give up a substantial part of one's life, essentially sacrificing everything for the purposes of achieving the goal. Perhaps it is this determination, combined with a bit of god given genius, that has always set me apart from my peers (I am humble in that I attribute my genius to GOD....if i claimed otherwise, then I'd be arrogant....note the distinction). Always lacking of material possessions, I strove for idealistic intellectual pursuits my entire life. It is only recently that I have decided that I want to become a millionaire. With my determination and analytical prowess, I don't believe anything can stand in my way (except for GOD, of course).

Perhaps you now have a better understanding of why I take so much pride in my educational accomplishments. I have no reason to be arrogant but many reasons to be humble. As I have always held, I really have no choice BUT to be humble despite apparant appearances to the contrary. Just a poor boy here whose determination and genius got him into Oxford (well it certainly wasn't my rich daddy right?)

Thanks again for the reply! I do appreciate your lengthy response.

Obeisantly,

 

[vanilla2]

that explains a lot. just don't wear your education on your sleeve like a thug in the ghetto wears a heap of gold chains (or a rich brat caught up in the culture of status). that's not what knowledge is about, which it's evident that you understand.

congratulations on your accomplishments so far. that is the american dream. the self made stories are the best kind IMHO.

 

[FreedomPhighter]

Quote from vanilla2:

that explains a lot. just don't wear your education on your sleeve like a thug in the ghetto wears a heap of gold chains (or a rich brat caught up in the culture of status). that's not what knowledge is about, which it's evident that you understand.

congratulations on your accomplishments so far. that is the american dream. the self made stories are the best kind IMHO.

Thanks for the congrats. Do i sense that someone on here is actually happy for me? Finally...

LOL

 

[maxpi]

Quote from FreedomPhighter:

Answer the poll

Imperative mode of communication? Try that on the markets. I can just see it: "give me the money".

Max

 

[candletrader]

Quote from maxpi:



Imperative mode of communication? Try that on the markets. I can just see it: "give me the money".

Max

Hehe... an interesting personality when trading, no doubt...

 

[prox]

Quote from FreedomPhighter:



Thanks for the congrats. Do i sense that someone on here is actually happy for me? Finally...

LOL

Finally?

 

[jack hershey]

Quote from maxpi:



Imperative mode of communication? Try that on the markets. I can just see it: "give me the money".

Max

Interesting.

Not everyone makes it their goals.

He should shoot for making money instead of an intermediate goal.

I remember a student of mine waking me up at minight plus. She had just become 21 and inherited her first trust of 8 million. Her buddy was with her.

So neat. They were so impetuous because she was going to a Danbury parachuting school against her parent's wishes. Her dad was chairman of the NYYC handicapping committee.

All we talked about was why it was important to train first at Danbury which was the best among many schools. They wanted to jump in spectacular places and be acrobatic glider pilots.

I just can't imagine a guy from oxford just looking at a million bucks. If you go to the best learning school at least you could talk about is making some money in the future.

 

[klutz]

Its ironic that you choose humility as the subject of your signature.

Try getting out a bit more, mixing with new people who dont have the misfortune to know how great you are [ for god's sake dont tell 'em] and who knows, if you can stop focusing on yourself for a while you might achieve more than just academic success at Oxford.

Good luck................you'll need it