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"Gartner's analysis of global Q4 2011 smartphone sales shows the Android operating system dominating market share:"

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"Nielsen's figures for Q4 2011 in the US show Android as the leading OS with 46.3% of all currently-owned smartphones, followed by Apple's iPhone at 30% and the RIM OS at 14.9%:"

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Apparently you can't even comprehend the difference between quarterly sales and total subscribers

The only conclusion I made was that Android was outselling iPhone, you have made a lot of excuses why that is the case but you have not refuted it.
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I weep for your children. You're a walking-talking PSA for contraception.
 
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I weep for your children. You're a walking-talking PSA for contraception.
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Sad that you can't admit when you were clearly mistaken, trying to correlate quarterly sales with total subscribers, lol. And more lame personal attacks to cover up for your lack of any substantive argument.
 
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Sad that you can't admit when you were clearly mistaken, trying to correlate quarterly sales with total subscribers, lol. And more lame personal attacks to cover up for your lack of any substantive argument.
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Never did. You're attempting to correlate Nov with EOY data. Brilliant.

The Dec numbers show 46% vs. 43%. There are no iPod touch equivalents in the android space. I realize it's not a smartphone, but it's also a factor in that it cannibalizes iPhone sales to some extent.

You're hanging your hat on stats that prove nothing. Apple didn't sell a single 4S until well into Q4.
 
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Never did.
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Really, you didn't attempt to correlate? I wonder why you said all these things then:

"The graph and the tabular data are f*cked."

"The end-points in the two do not match."

"Here's another clue... sales and subs are better than 95% correlated even when supplied from multiple sources, so the 29% figure was obviously stale data."

Duh, that's why the data from the two graphs don't match - they aren't supposed to. And you still won't admit that you were confused when its plainly obvious in every post you wrote, quoted above.
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You're hanging your hat on stats that prove nothing. Apple didn't sell a single 4S until well into Q4.
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Whatever you say, iPhone 4S accounted for 89 Percent of Apple's Phone Sales in 4Q but apparently you think the 4S sales in the 4Q aren't meaningful....during Christmas no less..

Still waiting for you to produce any stats, all you do is refute anecdotally and make excuses but you provide no data to back anything you say up.
 
Quote from GTS:

Really, you didn't attempt to correlate? I wonder why you said all these things then:

"The graph and the tabular data are f*cked."

"The end-points in the two do not match."

"Here's another clue... sales and subs are better than 95% correlated even when supplied from multiple sources, so the 29% figure was obviously stale data."

Duh, that's why the data from the two graphs don't match - they aren't supposed to. And you still won't admit that you were confused when its plainly obvious in every post you wrote, quoted above.
Whatever you say, iPhone 4S accounted for 89 Percent of Apple's Phone Sales in 4Q but apparently you think the 4S sales in the 4Q aren't meaningful....during Christmas no less..

Still waiting for you to produce any stats, all you do is refute anecdotally and make excuses but you provide no data to back anything you say up.
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Why post any stats? Yours make my point better than I could have hoped.

Stating they don't correlate isn't an attempt (to correlate).

Hyping sub-stats (table) that booked prior to the release and then ignoring the Dec (chart) SALES stats is your utter failure.

Take some solace in the fact that you never stood a chance.
 
Atticus, any sane person reading this thread and seeing what I actually wrote (not the strawmen you have constructed and dispatched) can clearly see that I have made my case. Its also quite clear that you have a stubborn streak a mile wide.

So to summarize my position since you have continually mischaracterized my point, here is what happened:

Bo wrote: "everybody in the world wants and needs an iPhone. "

Obviously a false statement but even granting Bo some artistic license it still falls flat on its face. So I posted a statement to clue Bo in since he clearly has no idea about the actual smartphone market.

GTS: "Not sure if you realize it but Android phones have outsold iPhones for a while now"

And then presented two charts that show (1) for the last 6 quarters Android sales have outpaced iPhone sales, quite significantly except for the last quarter of 11 and (2) that on a total US subscriber basis there are many more Android owners than iPhone owners, this was so any attempts to squash claims that Androids recent sales do not take into account iPhone's earlier entry into the market.

Any non-rabid person can see that these two graphs clearly show that Android has greater market share than iPhone and has outsold it. Its an undeniable fact and therefore my statement to Bo is true.

At this point you entered the fray and have gone off on every tangent imaginable: questioning why you would compare all Android Phones vs iPhones, questioning the data in the tables because you confused total subscribers vs. new subscribers, questioning the data because they have different endpoints, talking about how Apple is late to the 4G party so that is the reason for their under performance, how Apple decided to sign an exclusive agreement with AT&T so that is the reason and even sinking to play semantic games about the definition of 'domination'... none of which refutes the clear statement I made to Bo which got your panties all twisted up.

Feel free to post any facts to prove what I have said is not true. Hint: You saying so != Fact.
 
Love the compatibility with PC's. Best OS for handheld devices, combined with the ease of use of standard pc.

I haven't synched my iPhone in awhile, but the apps I have for it and the quality of the camera and easily transferred dcim folder are perfect for an all-around, high quality experience.

I don't use apple os because it isn't compatible with many of the platforms I use to trade, but even if it wasn't because it has apps this is less of an issue since I don't really like the apple mac as much as I do the iPhone.

iPod was not a flash-in-the-pan event, because the entire infrastructure of the products is based on iTunes, really, and as long as you can always get your music and play at high-volume I can't say enough good things about Apple's iPhone.

I own Apple stock, and I own an iPhone4.
 
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Atticus, any sane person ... [lots of stuff] ...

Feel free to post any facts to prove what I have said is not true. Hint: You saying so != Fact.
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What he's saying is simple: given the huge technological advantage in hardware the Android OS has, it should be destroying Apple. But it isn't.
What I posted earlier about the ease of use for iOS is the reason. atticus posted the same, as did another poster (who's name I forget; sorry). The first prerequisite for a phone is .... that it should function as a phone. The rest is secondary. Android doesn't get that.
No one wants to have to be rebooting every couple of hours and worrying about the battery discharging all the time. This is basic stuff that should have been covered first, before anything else, by the designers of Android.
But they didn't cover that stuff, so instead of destroying Apple, they're neck and neck.
 
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