WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange was arrested on behalf of U.S. authorities, British police say
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Exactly. The media want to obtain documents by any means necessary, parse those documents and systematically release words, phrases and sentences, mostly out of context, and then drive their version of the story. By the time all has been released the narrative is out there and nearly impossible to reverse. Example. There are still people, thousands of them, walking around with hands up, don't shoot signs at the every BLM riot/protest. This is exactly what they're hoping to do with the Mueller document.
I don't have any link to this, but I was watching Judge Nap on Fox this evening and I took it from his comments that courts have pretty much ruled journalists are exempt from this aiding and abetting.
Yes, while they are actually acting as a journalist. In this case, Assange went beyond journalism when he assisted in the criminal act of obtaining the information he reported on.
Manning is a criminal. Assange, IMO, was working with Russians to gum up the 2016 elections. They were playing a heads I win, tails you lose game and it worked. The objective was to bring chaos and suspicion to whichever candidate won. I expect they were as surprised as everyone else when Trump won, but it really didn't matter to them. Had Hillary won we'd still be enduring divided country which is suspicious and untrusting of the system, albeit without the phony investigation and media hoopla.
I don't know. I saw an interview where he clearly waffled and walked sideways like a crab. (video below).
Napolitano is on record as saying that he thinks Assange is a "hero," and that colors his arguments. Almost all of the journalists on both lefty and right media are reciting the circumstances of the case in a way that it makes it look like the issue has already been addressed in the Pentagon Papers case, except that case only affirmed that reporters are not criminally liable for releasing information that was illegally obtained by someone else, and where they were not part of the conspiracy to get it or enabling and participating in the getting.
We dont know all the allegations of the indictment or the additional indictments that will come but it is reported that Assange helped to hack the information by providing password information or information about where records were stored etc. In other words, the government is alleging that the Assange made something happen that would not have otherwise been able to happen - or as easily- if he had not enabled. I dont know the facts. Just sayin, the Pentagon Papers case did not settle that or determine that reporters were immune from conspiracy charges if proven.
Brett Baer sort of tripped Napolitano up a bit at about 3:50 on the video on the link. The judge is crowing along about how the courts have been absolutely clear about this and than, and then Brett asks him about the conspiracy and password thing and he walks sideways like a crab and says something to the effect "that we have not seen a charge like this before." Ahh okay. So we dont know how courts deal with that type of charge yet then. Got it. The government obviously has a different view. Not saying it is not a lawyers dream because there will be many billable hours. Just sayin, beware of cheerleaders for Assange saying that everything is clear as day. It ain't. Not the law, and not the facts of the case which have not all been revealed yet.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/new...ange-charged-in-hacking-conspiracy/vi-BBVRa1Z
Yeah, Manning is a criminal, Stone is a criminal, Trump is a criminal. You're reading too much into this. Assange's retribution was personal, hell I'd take it personal if the woman wanted me in chains too.
The new president in Ecuador is trying to work out a debt relief deal with the U.S.
I imagine he is going to be a WINNER before long.
One of the things about the Assange case is that -regardless of how it works out- it is too late for him to be a winner. He has been under house arrest for seven years. And as UsualTard pointed out he is not looking good. I doubt that he got his Noni Juice. And that extradition thing will get dragged out because the Europeans always like to do that with the U.S or not allow it because that is just how they assert themselves. Whatever. Just more time in the slammer for Assange before he gets to move on to the real disposition of the case, and I dont think the judge is going to give him bail after he appears, eh? So he will end up spending a decade in some form of detention- between embassy house arrest, extradition hearings in the UK, and trial in the US, AND THAT'S EVEN IF THE CASE IS DISMISSED OR HE IS FOUND NOT GUILTY. So I can have issues with the guy *IF* he participated in the digital break-ins- for the government to prove, I don't know- but I am not exactly screaming for blood here. Unlike the Smollette scenarios, Assange has already paid a rather larger price.
I will tell ya one thing that is complete bullshit though. Now that he is in custody there is talk about Sweden trying again to get him back there on the rape case. That's bullshit. Those charges were cranked up and fabricated by the government squeezing the women he was with. In any case, the US got him now or is first in line. So let Sweden stay the hell out of it or wait unitl the Americans are done with him. I am in favor of giving the guy whatever defenses he has in the US but I dont want to participate in just cycling him around to bullshit countries in order to keep him locked down somewhere on bullshit charges.
I thought that the Swedes were originally trying to get him back there on the rape case so that they could then hand him over to the Americans at some point, and that the Americans were involved but I guess the Swedes still got a bug up their arse even aside from the U.S. Anyway. they need to drop that rape case and move on. That's witch-hunt stuff. Bunch of flaky women, with flaky charges.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/04/12/julian-assange-arrest-extradition/3445061002/
I imagine he is going to be a WINNER before long.
One of the things about the Assange case is that -regardless of how it works out- it is too late for him to be a winner. He has been under house arrest for seven years. And as UsualTard pointed out he is not looking good. I doubt that he got his Noni Juice. And that extradition thing will get dragged out because the Europeans always like to do that with the U.S or not allow it because that is just how they assert themselves. Whatever. Just more time in the slammer for Assange before he gets to move on to the real disposition of the case, and I dont think the judge is going to give him bail after he appears, eh? So he will end up spending a decade in some form of detention- between embassy house arrest, extradition hearings in the UK, and trial in the US, AND THAT'S EVEN IF THE CASE IS DISMISSED OR HE IS FOUND NOT GUILTY. So I can have issues with the guy *IF* he participated in the digital break-ins- for the government to prove, I don't know- but I am not exactly screaming for blood here. Unlike the Smollette scenarios, Assange has already paid a rather larger price.
I will tell ya one thing that is complete bullshit though. Now that he is in custody there is talk about Sweden trying again to get him back there on the rape case. That's bullshit. Those charges were cranked up and fabricated by the government squeezing the women he was with. In any case, the US got him now or is first in line. So let Sweden stay the hell out of it or wait unitl the Americans are done with him. I am in favor of giving the guy whatever defenses he has in the US but I dont want to participate in just cycling him around to bullshit countries in order to keep him locked down somewhere on bullshit charges.
I thought that the Swedes were originally trying to get him back there on the rape case so that they could then hand him over to the Americans at some point, and that the Americans were involved but I guess the Swedes still got a bug up their arse even aside from the U.S. Anyway. they need to drop that rape case and move on. That's witch-hunt stuff. Bunch of flaky women, with flaky charges.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/04/12/julian-assange-arrest-extradition/3445061002/
Right. This is the part people fail to understand.