"Why won't God heal amputees?"

Quote from archimedes:

If the whole cult leader thing doesn't work out, at least you'll be good for a job teaching rhetoric at some community college.
If you were as good at contributing to the topic at hand as you are at detracting a contributor, an amputee may have been healed already.

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I, for one, never claimed to be a guru, and you are a schmuck on a message board with nothing better to do than bullshit people.
What are you claiming to be, or not to be?

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What 'sucks' is that you pollute an interesting discussion with your cheesy sanctimonious blather.
What was interesting about stoning my Father, standing by as my words are shredded, and leaving my brothers for dead, missing their limbs?


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You are just a different flavor of troll -- certainly more unique than the standard variety, but a troll nonetheless.
You can put whatever you want on my tombstone. Good luck with that.

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When I say that the truth is more than what you offer, I am not talking about some divine secret I hold in my hand.
I am asking you to offer what is in your hand. Maybe give it to an amputee.

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As for what truth I possess: I have read enough, thought enough, and walked enough paths to have figured out a few things. Nothing more exciting than that.
How much of it can you apply to the topic at hand: how to heal an amputee?

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I can taste the difference between good fruit and bad fruit.
There's probably a job out there that requires those skills. Possibly high turn over. What is the logic behind that? What would fruit from the tree of life taste like?

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And I can spot completely shite arguments when I see them.
Could you do me a favor and fill in for me on my days off? I need someone to spot all the arguments in this thread that suggest an amputee can't be healed.

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You would think the living logos would have a little firmer grasp on logic, and not be puking up glaring fallacies in almost every post.
What is not logical about exchanging hell for heaven, death for life, sickness for healing, nothing for everything? What about this world is not glaringly fallacious?

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As for serving up truth and where to find it: there are plenty of worthwhile books out there.
Any on how to raise the dead, how to walk on water, how to heal an amputee?

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Insightful people have been thinking about this stuff for a good while now. The best books will all tell you, in one way or another, that books can only serve as a starting point. The internal journey requires effort and time, no different than hiking a mountain or walking many miles. This is just a common sense observation. Many have made it before me. I am in no way a guru for sharing this.
What is the goal of such a journey? Where does it end? What is your goal in this thread?

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Enlightenment is not earth shattering. If anything it is the opposite. Before enlightenment: chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment: chop wood, carry water.
After enlightenment, you can also walk on water and turn it into wine on occasion. Even greater things than these can you do. You can shine your light for all the world to see. Why hide it under a bushel?

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Shunryu Suzuki: "Before you attain it, it is something wonderful, but after you attain it, it is nothing special."
What did he say he attained?

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What you offer is neither practical nor insightful nor useful.
That depends on where you want to go on your trip.

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That leaves aesthetic value. What you offer has no aesthetic value because your schtick is so bloody annoying.
I am offering aesthetic value to amputees. What is so annoying about that?

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So in essence, I think it sucks that your particular brand of trolling is messing up a thread I was otherwise enjoying. Little more.
What brand were you enjoying otherwise?

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And, while I'm not sure I consider them my brethren, I have feelings of compassion for those who are sucked in by your bullshit
What are your feelings about offering healing to amputees?

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-- partially because I suspect that the real you, the guy behind your Jesus schtick, is as cynical as anyone else here and knows exactly what you are doing.
I am not cynical. I am innocent, and I suspect everyone else here is also innocent, knowing not what they do.

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I sense that you are one of those people who like to shit in a river or dump battery acid in a stream, as Lou Reed might say, just because you have nothing better to do.
What's better than forgiving my brothers their illusions about themselves, about me, about our Father, and about amputees?

Jesus
 
Quote from I am...:

If you were as good at contributing to the topic at hand as you are at detracting a contributor, an amputee may have been healed already.


There was actually some pretty good discussion for a while there... helped by the fact that no Elvises or Napoleons were involved. Then you came along, and started pouring syrup over everything.

Ah well. I suppose it is the fate of most (if not all) long-lived ET threads to end this way. The center cannot hold.

It was stimulating--and fun--while it lasted.

Goodbye.
 
Quote from I am...:

I am informing you that your true will is to see heaven, and it is more powerful than your wish to see something "beyond" everything. Why wait?

I tell you what. As I am the only one who knows what my true will is, you go first and I'll let you know my answer after that.

Do us all a favor. On your way to heaven, keep your "dream" hand clenched tight round any "dream" nut you like . That way the pot of pure bullshite you are stuck in goes too. Archimedes is right .You're just another troll.

Happy trails
stu
 
Quote from llaterallus:

Hey archimedes, you may want to lighten up on this “I am” Jesus character. He seems crazy to anyone to tries to understand him from a perspective of ‘reason’ as he is primary a man of faith, and faith and reason never go together. Faith in a sense is unavoidable – you break down logic, math, and physics way down enough and you get to an area where science cannot go because it is an area where no experiments can be done (ie the superstring level). So ultimately the basis of all knowledge systems is a leap of faith.
Just a few days ago I would have agreed with you as to the ‘craziness’ of this “I am” Jesus guy.
But now I think that he is crazy, and good for him. Because the more I study people who have gotten to unbelievable levels success (fame and fortune wise) the more I realize that these folks are completely crazy from the prospective of ‘reason.’

Some examples:

- Imagine a prince who gives up all he has to pursue a life of renunciation and a particular form of yoga that involves lots of self-mortification. After 7 years of this madness, he is near death from fasting, and then finally accepts some milk from a poor girl. Right them he then gives up the whole quest of pursuing ‘enlightenment’ and proclaims himself to be enlightened. This is the story of the Buddha. He seems crazy to me but he’s had an influence on human culture more than anyone else perhaps.

- Imagine an investor that is so cheap that he refuses to invest in fast growing industries/companies because he doesn’t understand them and he prefers to fight the trend and buy low thinking he’s getting a good deal. That’s crazy. Yet Warren Buffet did just that and no one comes close to replicating his success.

- Imagine a Nobel Prize winning mathematician, who thinks he can outsmart the market by day trading it using algos when all academic literature says that day trading is gambling and that market is more or less efficient making consistent profits impossible. Yet he runs the biggest quant trading hedge fund in the world (Jim Simmons).

- Imagine the biggest female pop star in the world falling for an unemployed guy who just dumped his pregnant girlfriend. This crazy girl then dumps the guy and begins to showcase her vagina to the world to signal she’s single and ready to mingle. Yet this is the story of Brittany Spears.

- I can go on about guys who have fame and fortune and families yet continue to risk life and limb for their sport.

- Or how about Jack Hershey, who claims anyone can be on the ‘right side of the market at all times’ and can extract 3 times the daily range for ES with ‘no risk’. He has zero evidence to back up any of his assumptions and claims yet this guy has the biggest following on ET.


Now back to this “I am” Jesus guy. In a few years who knows, maybe he will have a huge following and have all the money he wanted but couldn’t make thru trading. Guys that are crazy and go ‘all in’ to whatever they believe in an do without any doubts will always come out ahead of the ‘reasonable’ guy who’s always has fear and doubt in him. Faith is a high risk – high reward thing. Faith isn’t perfect but I respect it a lot more now cause it takes courage to go ‘all in’ and give everything you have to something – primarily because our whole system of education is geared towards producing unthinking and unfeeling cogs for some machine.
So Jesus, go right ahead and up the ante, go all in and all out. Because this is all drama anyways. A game of dare to see how ‘far out’ one can go and how lost one can get.


I retract everything I said in the above quoted post.
Its wrong to define success only in terms of fame and fortune.
And it was stupid of me to take sides in the pointless Reason vs. Faith debate claiming one to be 'better' then the other.
Archimedes, you're right for the most part in your response.


I'd like to balance my retraction by adding something I found to be interesting.
Its an article about the importance of equally balancing polarities as expressed by the concept of Zero in mathematics and spirituality.

http://shinzen.org/index.htm

- click on the the articles link
- then click on Algorithm and Emptiness
 
Quote from llaterallus:

I retract everything I said in the above quoted post.
Its wrong to define success only in terms of fame and fortune.
And it was stupid of me to take sides in the pointless Reason vs. Faith debate claiming one to be 'better' then the other.
Archimedes, you're right for the most part in your response.


I'd like to balance my retraction by adding something I found to be interesting.
Its an article about the importance of equally balancing polarities as expressed by the concept of Zero in mathematics and spirituality.

http://shinzen.org/index.htm

- click on the the articles link
- then click on Algorithm and Emptiness

Balance was the point when I said, "Blessed are they who mourn..." "Mourn" was mistranslated from what I meant: Moderation.

Quote from llaterallus:

Because this is all drama anyways. A game of dare to see how ‘far out’ one can go and how lost one can get.


And this is a good reason to be moderate and find balance. This world is 'far out'. Success can be defined as finding oneSelf. This could make you famous...temporarily.

Jesus
 
lkh

that is such a cool and at the same time true article you've posted

I laughed through every paragraph

it's also funny to see other's posts, arguing that no he does exist, please don't talk like that you shatter all my beliefs

you know I like it when God exists, because there is someone I can blame all the stupidity of the universe on, someone I can hate for a good reason, someone I can call a f**cked up maniac

evil exists -> god exists

if god did not exist -> either the world would be a perfect place or would be so f***cked up that nothing could live or nothing would even exist
 
We are deviating from the question this thread is based on aren't we?
The reason God won't heal amputees is because they are retards!
Simple. End of discussion!

New thread please!
 
Quote from bluud:

lkh

that is such a cool and at the same time true article you've posted

I laughed through every paragraph

it's also funny to see other's posts, arguing that no he does exist, please don't talk like that you shatter all my beliefs

you know I like it when God exists, because there is someone I can blame all the stupidity of the universe on, someone I can hate for a good reason, someone I can call a f**cked up maniac

evil exists -> god exists

if god did not exist -> either the world would be a perfect place or would be so f***cked up that nothing could live or nothing would even exist

Evil does not exist. God exists in a perfect world. You exist there with Him, equal in power. Depending on your thoughts, you can make up a world opposite in every way to perfection, where nothing can live, and nothing really exists. There, you can be a knat shouting at the universe, cursing a nightmare. From that vantage point you can blame as much as you like. But it won't return you to the real world. That depends on correct thinking. So think again. If you don't consider the problem, you won't come up with any effective solutions.

Jesus
 
I already said goodbye and unsubscribed to this thread... but this was so great I had to share it.

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So, once again - bye!
 
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