New to the forum first time poster. We are having a similar discussion at a forum I own and came across this website looking for material via google. I know it's a forum rule to read the thread before replying however there are 45 pages to it. I am currently on page 12 it's late I'm going to bed I'll read the rest tomorrow. Now here is my take on things:
Don't you guys think it's funny that everytime something is wrong with christianity, the only answer you will have is "Too complicated to for us inferior being to understand" or "God created you, what the hell more can you ask for"
Give me a break already, I want ANSWERS, not some excuses.
I was raise as a christian for the past 10 years and I stopped believing in god 5 years ago. Why? Whenever I asked my priest something, most of the time he said "Not for us to know" or "Be glad that you are alive, stop asking questions". Well, if you want someone to believe in your religion, then EXPLAIN first. No one will ever going to stay in your church for long if you don't answer them. Christians might think I am foolish for giving up on god, but until I can find answers, I have no god. Yet again, I don't think god actually exists because all the religions I heard of have many flaws and contractions.
I don't believe in god nor heaven... from my thoughts, it is nothing more then a fairy tale... it's something humans made up as to not be afraid of Death, and to not be responsible for their actions...
It's no different from Santa. It's just that we haven't matured enough for someone to tell us that "Santa isn't real".
Remember when you were a little kid and those presents got under the tree somehow? And someone told you Santa did it, and you believed them? It's the same thing, just because you don't know how it's done, you're willing to listen to the first thing that is introduced to you. Whether it's logical or not.
There are quite many theories on how earth started besides one big bang, who knows...? There are going to be millions and billions of questions that Humans won't be able to answer... me? I think a ton of different things could have happened. The easiest would be that when Earth was being created (gasses and other hard matter) that a meteor or comet stuck the land while it was carrying simple bacteria (frozen or not) thus starting the first life. "Well that's not right" and I understand but that's why as we know of it, we are the only living organisms in the universe, thus it was merely luck.
There are so many things that we don't have answers to, and most people just tend to use God as the answer to all of their problems.
You say that God proves you wrong every time you have doubts about him, how so? Does your life suck so much, you doubt in God, and then it becomes better...? I'll tell you right now, that's not God... if there was a God, why would there be diseases on Earth? Why would there be killings? Why would God create a perfectly healthy baby for someone that drinks, smokes, does pot, and could care less about god, while he gives a demented baby to someone that has always done good in their life and preaches for him? Why aren't we all just one big happy family?
And think about it, if you believe in god, then you have to believe in the devil, and you have to believe in hell, just another way to straighten our society, "be good and you shall be rewarded in your afterlife".
Well that's pure crap. The truth is, no matter how hard you try in life, or how far you get, at one moment, all of that won't matter, and for that brief second before you cease to exist you will think back at your life and wish that you had done so much more. But you can't because it's all over.
Even if there is an "afterlife" or "heaven" what would it be like...? You think that you die and your spirit goes to some place in the clouds where everything is happy and cheery and everyone dances and sings? Well?
If you truly believed that then you would have killed yourself long ago. Why live in a world with murders, and rape, and disease, and terrorists, and having to feel anger, and pain, and fear. Why not just kill yourself and go to "heaven" where everything is perfect and you can live for eternity.
I can keep going and going. but remember. Everything that you've been taught about God or heaven is all just one big fairy tale. Whether or not you want to believe it is your choice.
Believing that there's a God blindly without any proof is like blindly believing that I'm a 70-foot ogre with bad feet. Just because somebody's told you something doesn't make it true.
Read it all you want, youâre just following another HUMANâs writings blindly. I mean if this happened now a days the scientists could prove something was different and thus prove God to exist, but if he is real why wont he come down? If he comes down now there would be evidence that he exists for ever more. Not just some crap written by other people thousands of years ago! Know one will stand up nowadays and say they can do miracles because we can now can see right through crap and people are a lot less gullible.
Sure, life had to have started somewhere. There must be some supreme being or some being that originated everything. If you want to call it God, well, that's just a man-made term - a definition. Like the bible. It's man made. Written by the hand of a man, a "story" if you will. Back in the days before the Internet, before TV, before radio, before telephones, before mail, before any kind of complex information sharing other than conversation was invented, people were naïve. They would believe anything to explain anything since they didn't have the tools to prove otherwise. Remember how all of England thought the world was flat? Well who started that rumor? Someone must have and people believed it because they didn't know any better. No one could prove it wrong. So what stops someone from saying he is God or the Son of God? If you get enough people to believe you then who's going prove you wrong?
