"Why won't God heal amputees?"

[man]

i do not get your way of thinking, honestly speaking.
the US government is obviously under big influence
of big oil and big weapon. and whether you like it or
not, your military budget in combination with your
deficit to the UN and your energy policy is a gepolitical
nightmare. that is the current status of the american
"dream".

 

[archimedes]

Quote from volente_00:

You can attack me all you want but the fact remains it all comes down to CHOICES.

Lost cause.

 

[Haroki]

Quote from man:

i do not get your way of thinking, honestly speaking.
the US government is obviously under big influence
of big oil and big weapon. and whether you like it or
not, your military budget in combination with your
deficit to the UN and your energy policy is a gepolitical
nightmare. that is the current status of the american
"dream".

I don't understand why you're getting so excited about those kids.

Don't you understand that their parents might be AWARE of what could happen to their kids? Don't you think that perhaps they, themselves, once could have been that kid?

The uneducated hillbillies that they are, they place a lot lower value on their kids - maybe. They will grieve at their loss, just as anyone will, but it is and has been a condition of living there. As a result, I believe it is their CHOICE to bring kids into the world, provide for them as best as they can, and if something happens - like a famine or genocide that forces them to move to another area, they just move on and deal with it.

Harsh for us to deal with that reality, but consider that their culture is not our own, and perhaps THEN you can understand how that could happen......

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from lkh:

Is God real, or is he imaginary?

Imaginary.

Thanks for asking.

 

[lkh]

Quote from Haroki:

I don't understand why you're getting so excited about those kids.

Don't you understand that their parents might be AWARE of what could happen to their kids? Don't you think that perhaps they, themselves, once could have been that kid?

The uneducated hillbillies that they are, they place a lot lower value on their kids - maybe. They will grieve at their loss, just as anyone will, but it is and has been a condition of living there. As a result, I believe it is their CHOICE to bring kids into the world, provide for them as best as they can, and if something happens - like a famine or genocide that forces them to move to another area, they just move on and deal with it.

Harsh for us to deal with that reality, but consider that their culture is not our own, and perhaps THEN you can understand how that could happen......

Some of the overpopulation is religious ignorance taught by fat and happy catholics in Rome. Even as aid groups try to get these people to use condoms the LOCAL priests preach against it.

http://www.condoms4life.org/facts/condomPolicy.htm

“When priests preach against using contraception, they are committing a serious mistake which is costing human lives. We do not ask the church to promote contraception, but merely to stop banning its use.”

UNAIDS Director Peter Piot, shortly after the recent United Nations’ AIDS meeting [“Church’s stand against contraception costs lives,” Agence France Presse, June 29, 2001].

“Every condom sold sends the buyer to acquire the AIDS virus.”

Fr. Gerald Magera Iga, in a campaign urging condom sellers in Uganda to burn up their stocks [Comtex newswire, January 25, 1999].

 

[man]

Quote from Haroki:

I don't understand why you're getting so excited about those kids.

Don't you understand that their parents might be AWARE of what could happen to their kids? Don't you think that perhaps they, themselves, once could have been that kid?

The uneducated hillbillies that they are, they place a lot lower value on their kids ...

i think what you are trying to say in this first part of
your post is (though you are a little to shy to be frank)
that these parents see their children more like we see
our pets. we love them, we take care of them, we
grieve when we lose them. but it the end, we replace
them by others of the same kind.

Quote from Haroki:

...- maybe. They will grieve at their loss, just as anyone will, but it is and has been a condition of living there. As a result, I believe it is their CHOICE to bring kids into the world, provide for them as best as they can, and if something happens - like a famine or genocide that forces them to move to another area, they just move on and deal with it.

Harsh for us to deal with that reality, but consider that their culture is not our own, and perhaps THEN you can understand how that could happen......

and in the second part you seem to understand what
strange point of view you had just uttered and now
you try to take some nasty parts out of it. so that the
overall picture of your opinion does not show how
cruel and fascist your point of view actually is. the
pure fact that mothers cannot do anything about
the situation and somehow try to cope with it, is
diminished by taking away the true nature of their
human feelings towards their children. you simply
say: these are not the same kind of being as we are.
this is the very basic root of fascism, may you like it
or not, may you think i am going too far with this
answering your harmless little post.

africans had a very intact structure before white men
occupied all their land and destroyed all their cultural
roots. the artistic products of these old tribes are
astonishing. i saw some thousand of years old gravings
and they were superb in their precise and reduced
artistical value. amazing art work. thousands of
years old. and during the last couple of hundred
years idiotic egomanic white people destroyed every-
thing there, enabling some strange guys on an internet
platform to deny african women of their mother feelings
towards their children.

d i s g u s t i n g .

 

[man]

Quote from Thunderdog:

Imaginary.

Thanks for asking.

thanks for a funny, short post.

 

[Haroki]

Quote from man:

i think what you are trying to say in this first part of
your post is (though you are a little to shy to be frank)
that these parents see their children more like we see
our pets. we love them, we take care of them, we
grieve when we lose them. but it the end, we replace
them by others of the same kind.


and in the second part you seem to understand what
strange point of view you had just uttered and now
you try to take some nasty parts out of it. so that the
overall picture of your opinion does not show how
cruel and fascist your point of view actually is. the
pure fact that mothers cannot do anything about
the situation and somehow try to cope with it, is
diminished by taking away the true nature of their
human feelings towards their children. you simply
say: these are not the same kind of being as we are.
this is the very basic root of fascism, may you like it
or not, may you think i am going too far with this
answering your harmless little post.

africans had a very intact structure before white men
occupied all their land and destroyed all their cultural
roots. the artistic products of these old tribes are
astonishing. i saw some thousand of years old gravings
and they were superb in their precise and reduced
artistical value. amazing art work. thousands of
years old. and during the last couple of hundred
years idiotic egomanic white people destroyed every-
thing there, enabling some strange guys on an internet
platform to deny african women of their mother feelings
towards their children.

d i s g u s t i n g .

You don't get out much do you?

Look back into history a little, you can find examples in any time period, for any culture, for any race, where parents will, in fact, make the decision to abandon or sell off their kids into slavery during times of extreme hardship. If I gave you the impression that I think only the women in Africa feel this way, then it was my mistake.

It's simply our ability to rationalize these decisions that can make us those kind of monsters. And to deny the truth of it, as you have done by going off on me, is stupid....

Grow up....

 

[man]

Quote from Haroki:

You don't get out much do you?

Look back into history a little, you can find examples in any time period, for any culture, for any race, where parents will, in fact, make the decision to abandon or sell off their kids into slavery during times of extreme hardship. If I gave you the impression that I think only the women in Africa feel this way, then it was my mistake.

It's simply our ability to rationalize these decisions that can make us those kind of monsters. And to deny the truth of it, as you have done by going off on me, is stupid....

Grow up....

don't worry, i am going out. i am not a bookworm.
and do not worry that I am not grown up. i am.

your initial post i commented on started with:

"I don't understand why you're getting so excited
about those kids"

are you trying to tell me now, that i, and let's face
it: everyone, should care not only less about "those"
kids, but in general not about families who "make
the decision to abandon or sell off their kids into
slavery during times of extreme hardship"? is this
the logic here? you are carelessly writing a strange
post, feel somehow caught now as a racist and
generalise it to peopleInTrouble?

maybe you should go out less and growup yourself.

 

[man]

Quote from Haroki:

If I gave you the impression that I think only the women in Africa feel this way, then it was my mistake.

one more note: oh no, you did not leave THAT impression.
it was more like "... they place a lot lower value on
their kids...".
but you did not really mean this, indicated by you
adding "... maybe".

well actually i THINK you meant exactly that " the
women in Africa feel this way", since you probably
don't assume that everyone "in any time period, for
any culture, for any race, where parents will, in fact,
make the decision to abandon or sell off their kids into
slavery during times of extreme hardship" will become
"uneducated Hillibillies".

i would advise that you get out before you try to
understand these arguments. you wouldn't.