Why We Should Never Compromise On Gun Rights

[AAAintheBeltway]

No UsefulIdiot, conservatives blame who's responsible -- the shooter. And, if there are others who enabled the shooter (like the law enforcement chain from the FBI to the Broward cowards with their failures), they need to be held accountable too. Because conservatives want fact based solutions but the LEOs were secondary in Parkland. Gun-grabbing shitlibs like you, OTOH, blame inanimate objects because you're about a phony narrative and an agenda. Not solutions, or you'd be marching in Chicago.

This is all very true, but why can't republicans actually mobilize and exploit these tragedies like the left does? They could have demanded an end to Obama's disastrous policy of not holding minority thugs accountable for criminal actions, ie the idiotic "school to prison pipeline." Let's face it, some of these "kids" deserve to be in prison, not school where they can terrorize the other students and prevent them from getting an education. Any teacher will tell you that one disruptive kid in a classroom will ruin it for the others. Now, they can do it with impunity.

Similarly, republicans should have hammered the FBI over their failure here, as well as the comically incompetent local sheriff.

Here's the problem. Republicans are terrified of ever being seen to criticize a minority, any minority. They will gladly sell out their own base and supporters before they stand up to race hustlers. We saw that all too clearly with Charlottesville, where they actually passed a resolution condemning innocent demonstrators with a valid permit after they were set upon by antifa thugs and local gang bangers. And who started the hateful movement to tear down monuments to Confederate war dead? Nikki Haley, the nominally republican governor of SC. Trump so approved he appointed her Ambassador to the UN.

In addition, most republicans are so in thrall to anyone with a badge or uniform that they will never hold them to account. They actually are saying we shouldn't look into the FBI trying to stage a coup against a democratically elected president. It might damage the image of the FBI and law enforcement.

I amazed there are not lines out of gun stores onto the parking lot. Republicans like Paul Ryan are getting ready to sell us out, as soon as they think they can get away with it. Trump's true views are probably closer to Mike Bloomberg's than the NRA's. As we have seen, he takes campaign promises very lightly.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Didn't we have a ban on assault style firearms in effect for a number of years? It expired maybe in 2002. I'm guessing here. But If I'm right, why not go back and look at the incidence (rate) of mass shootings during the time the ban was in place versus now? Any difference I wonder?

I did, and posted on this before. There was no evidence it was effective at all.

https://www.factcheck.org/2013/02/did-the-1994-assault-weapons-ban-work/

 

[Poindexter]

This is all very true, but why can't republicans actually mobilize and exploit these tragedies like the left does? They could have demanded an end to Obama's disastrous policy of not holding minority thugs accountable for criminal actions, ie the idiotic "school to prison pipeline." Let's face it, some of these "kids" deserve to be in prison, not school where they can terrorize the other students and prevent them from getting an education. Any teacher will tell you that one disruptive kid in a classroom will ruin it for the others. Now, they can do it with impunity.

Similarly, republicans should have hammered the FBI over their failure here, as well as the comically incompetent local sheriff.

Here's the problem. Republicans are terrified of ever being seen to criticize a minority, any minority. They will gladly sell out their own base and supporters before they stand up to race hustlers. We saw that all too clearly with Charlottesville, where they actually passed a resolution condemning innocent demonstrators with a valid permit after they were set upon by antifa thugs and local gang bangers. And who started the hateful movement to tear down monuments to Confederate war dead? Nikki Haley, the nominally republican governor of SC. Trump so approved he appointed her Ambassador to the UN.

In addition, most republicans are so in thrall to anyone with a badge or uniform that they will never hold them to account. They actually are saying we shouldn't look into the FBI trying to stage a coup against a democratically elected president. It might damage the image of the FBI and law enforcement.

I amazed there are not lines out of gun stores onto the parking lot. Republicans like Paul Ryan are getting ready to sell us out, as soon as they think they can get away with it. Trump's true views are probably closer to Mike Bloomberg's than the NRA's. As we have seen, he takes campaign promises very lightly.

I hear you. Most republican politicians are self-serving PC cowards and most republican voters are too apathetic to get involved until there's a crisis. I think one of Trump's most important accomplishments -- whether he did it intentionally or not -- was to unmask the left. To the extent that even "low information voters" can see their agenda. We deserve the government we put up with and on the bright side, voters at least have a clearer view now of the sewer than ever before.

 

[futurecurrents]

Assault rifles and handguns should - and will eventually - be banned. No reason for them.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Assault rifles and handguns should - and will eventually - be banned. No reason for them.

Eventually? You mean, like in 2145 or something?

 

[futurecurrents]

Eventually? You mean, like in 2145 or something?

Yeah, after thousands more kids are killed by them and hundreds of them saved if the ban had come sooner.

But hey, I get it, the gun nuts love their toys and would rather see kids die then give up their handguns and assault rifles.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Assault rifles and handguns should - and will eventually - be banned. No reason for them.

Better make sure that Ruth Ginsberg is getting her Tahitian Noni Juice to keep her peppy and on the bench.

Amazing the way you tard clowns feign fake outrage about gun violence but then fall all over yourself with fake tears if ICE tries to get police in Fugitive Protection Cites (ie. sanctuary) to turn over some guy who has a violent history including weapons charges. Of course to be killed by a MS13 salvadoran gang member is multicultural so that makes it something that needs to be protected.

 

[UsualName]

I'm pleased to see the Parkland kids taking a very political approach. They are going after the congressmen taking NRA money. If I were to advise them that's precisely what I would suggest. They already have the public on their side.

It reminds me of the old saying, the dogs bark but the caravan moves on. It’s all about critical mass and the number of guns in this country sustain the chain reaction.

This country does not have worse parents, or more mental illness, or weaker law enforcement than any other first world country yet we have the highest number of deaths associated with guns and it’s all the NRAs fault.

The Parkland kids are doing a good job of making this a youth issue and uniting the different socioeconomic classes in their age group around this issue. It is good and they have the support of growing survivor groups but the NRA is entrenched and many on the right see the NRA as their version of the ACLU so it’s become an ideological issue rather than a common sense issue. And as you can see by many of these post there’s not much common sense associated with the loudest mouths on the right.

 

[CaptainObvious]

Better make sure that Ruth Ginsberg is getting her Tahitian Noni Juice to keep her peppy and on the bench.

Amazing the way you tard clowns feign fake outrage about gun violence but then fall all over yourself with fake tears if ICE tries to get police in Fugitive Protection Cites (ie. sanctuary) to turn over some guy who has a violent history including weapons charges. Of course to be killed by a MS13 salvadoran gang member is multicultural so that makes it something that needs to be protected.

So long as Trump is president they'll be wheeling her in like Weekend at Bernies. Alive or not, she'll be on the bench.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

So long as Trump is president they'll be wheeling her in like Weekend at Bernies. Alive or not, she'll be on the bench.

It reminds me of the old saying, the dogs bark but the caravan moves on. It’s all about critical mass and the number of guns in this country sustain the chain reaction.

This country does not have worse parents, or more mental illness, or weaker law enforcement than any other first world country yet we have the highest number of deaths associated with guns and it’s all the NRAs fault.

The Parkland kids are doing a good job of making this a youth issue and uniting the different socioeconomic classes in their age group around this issue. It is good and they have the support of growing survivor groups but the NRA is entrenched and many on the right see the NRA as their version of the ACLU so it’s become an ideological issue rather than a common sense issue. And as you can see by many of these post there’s not much common sense associated with the loudest mouths on the right.

Not to worry.

Piezo assures us that the Supreme Court of Canada will straighten all this out.