Quote from trefoil:
If you've spent a lifetime paying Medicare taxes, you're going to vote for the person who's going to tell you you actually get to get some benefit for taxes paid in. It's got precisely nothing to do with sugar daddies.
Your response shows why that election was lost tonight. It amazes me that the entire Republican leadership actually listens to folks like you, who represent only the farthest right portion of the electorate. They don't seem to understand that the 2010 elections were an anomaly, and if they continue to try to pander to the folks who voted in 2010, they're going to get murdered in 2012.
That election was a warning.
You totally missed the point.
We're not talking those who are fully paid-in to the system. With that crowd, the main issues are reform and aggresively grandfathering the age up. 65 was close to life expectancy when SS began in the 1930s. It's now 75 years later, life expectancy has gone way up, and you have to wait one whopping year longer to get a full retirement SS check. And you can still get it a reduced rate at 62. Totally arbitrary numbers, but the public is brainwashed into thinking they deserve a retirement at that age.
Folks like me? You mean those who don't live on the dole and aren't brainwashed on entitlements, class warfare BS rhetoric, green energy or a thousand other lies from the snake-oiler in chief? Heaven forbid anyone listen to us. No functioning brains allowed around here.
I know how the system is gamed--I've talked to enough welfare giver-outers whose political convictions were cemented when they saw the abuses and attitudes of the "gimme my check" crowd. Yeah, 2010 was a warning alright...but not what you think.