Quote from Martinghoul:
'Cause in the world of interest rates, things are normal, rather than lognormal. Nobody cares about the percentage move in rates. Instead people care about the absolute number of basis points, which is why, in the world of rates, it's all about bp vol, aka normal vol, and not about Black-Scholes, percentage vol, aka lognormal vol.
OT, now you be talking loco...Quote from OddTrader:
You guys have no idea for what is basis point volatility talking about! I'd better save my time here!
I should mention that there's an important caveat that I really should have remembered.Quote from dmo:
Very interesting Martin. Are you saying that you would use a model assuming a normal distribution to trade options on a contract denominated in basis points, such as eurodollar futures?
Quote from Martinghoul:
I should mention that there's an important caveat that I really should have remembered.
Historically, the IR vol mkt has been used to rates significantly above 0, where normal really works a lot better than lognormal. However, Japan has always been a very interesting exception that now provides important lessons for other mkts. The lesson is that as rates approach the zero bound, things behave more and more lognormally, as one would expect.
Luckily, SABR (see my previous post) is actually able to parameterize this gradual normal -> lognormal transition, which means you can tweak the distribution to your liking. There are also methods to specifically address the zero bound by 'absorbing' the distribution, but I am now starting to wax all poetic, so I'll stop.
Quote from dmo:
That all makes perfect sense. With rates this low, makes it hard to ignore the nearby limit of zero.
BTW, when I was in T-bond options in the eighties, the skew was such that equidistant otm puts and calls traded at about the same price - as if they were implying a normal distribution. At one point I decided to look into running sheets with normal distribution, and called Myron Scholes to ask him how to modify his model so it would generate normal-distribution prices. He was HIGHLY incensed at my inference that his model could be improved, and not cooperative in the least!
