Why should France have a veto right in the U.N. ?

Franklin played a crucial role in the American Revolution, being the ambassador to France and parlaying his celebrity into gaining French assistance, without which the American Revolution probably would not have succeeded. While the Americans rarely had 10,000 soldiers in the field at any time, the French committed more than 30,000 soldiers to the American Revolution. At the final battle of the Revolutionary War, the siege of Yorktown, there were as many French soldiers and sailors as American soldiers. Thirty French warships, cutting off the British Army from receiving reinforcements, proved decisive.
 
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So tell me what you know about Indonesian history. Or am I not white enough?
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Your ignorance of history has nothing to do with color. You asked why France had veto power. The answer can be found in any world history book. If you choose to know nothing about how the world works, you can hardly expect to be a dominant power in the UN.

--Db
 
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Buzzy2, it isn't such a long time ago when there were cannibals in Indonesia.

So they have come a long way since. But of course they still have a long way to go before they are on an equal footing with a country like the USA.

Respect can only earned by one's behaviour in the human rights area.

As long as the powers in charge (in Indonesia) tolerate racial killings (even protecting the guilty ones) they haven't advanced anough to be called 'civilised enough' to be considered leadership material.

One of the problems in Indonesia is that whilst the people presently at the very top in Indonesia are trying very hard to do the right thing but are being sabotaged by powerful figures both in the military and in the government.

Jack
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You would be surprised that in some parts of Indonesia there are still cannibals, so I would advise the US Marines to stay away!!! Unless of course they have forgotten that a "headhunter" can also be someone who is really interested in your head for dinner...

Interesting your remark about racial killings. America's success is based on racial killings, like some other former British colonies (eg Australia). And was that so long ago?

Yes, the situation here is complicated, and probably we cannot accept Indonesia as a role model. But I doubt it that many Asian countries would accept the US as a role model.

Any other Asians in here?
 
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Interesting your remark about racial killings. America's success is based on racial killings, like some other former British colonies (eg Australia). And was that so long ago?
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Nice point, and all you who think that Americans have the "moral higher ground", keep the above in mind when you celebrate Thanksgiving.
 
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Nice point, and all you who think that Americans have the "moral higher ground", keep the above in mind when you celebrate Thanksgiving.
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So why are you here asking for help from americans here on this board, I bet if I go ask for help to your country anybody will help me too? I don't think so...
 
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Indonesia has been blamed for its slow and hesitant commitment to the war against terrorism.

http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/laskar.cfm
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Yes, it is true. Our government has waited much too long and allowed some terror groups to blossom, even though there was evidence. But I think the Bali bomb was a turning point.
Unfortunately many people in the Maluku suffered, especially christians, and this is what is held against the government.

Ethnic violence which is disguised as religious, hardly anything more horrible in the world but people who commit crimes in the name of god.
 
Are you a terrorist too? The government doesn't do anything because the population likes it that way. When americans go to Indonesia, people make it clear we are not welcome.
 
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