Why scalping beats any other trading style

Quote from yoohoo:

A friend of mine came up with this...

did a quick analysis to determine what I already knew in my head. Scalping definitely generates more Net Profit and for anyone with a calculator it is a no brainer. The following is a table from the analysis. The analysis was taken from the day session for the last 3 days on the Nasdaq E-Mini

(see attachment - it's a Word Doc)

The only way to have the potential to make more than a day trader is to position trade large size.

LOL, the fact that you even mention 100% accuracy is laughable.

Try considering execution issues & slippage next time.

Leaving out all the special trick trading which has been phased & milked out over the years, I think position style (intraday or swing) is better. I'm not against scalping however, at times, scalping is the way to go. But overall, the ability to place smart trades and giving them time to take its course without being glued to the screen is much more beneficial & more intellectually involved.

Unless you are running a black box, I don't see scalping being superior. 5-10 years ago, yeah, I think scalping was superior.
 
Yoohoo............don't feel bad now.......i just checked in here and see how you gave up the eminis as u now tout the fx.......another emini intraday failure.......don't feel bad you are in a group that includes some of the best professional minds in the world..most all fail...best wishes with fx.....
 
Hi Jack.......your post was very long and very good for those who know this.........buy dips sell rallies with trend/channel /run......your post could mean those 6 words say it all.....are we giving away the gold? eminis only...
 
Quote from Mecro:

LOL, the fact that you even mention 100% accuracy is laughable.

Try considering execution issues & slippage next time.


Quote from yoohoo:

100% is impossible.

Think you misread.

The rest I've no beef with. Might be my fault for misdescribing my micro trading as scalping, especially as it can run into major intraday swings. But entries are often taken below the 1 min level.
 
Quote from shooting star:

Yoohoo............don't feel bad now.......i just checked in here and see how you gave up the eminis as u now tout the fx.......another emini intraday failure.......don't feel bad you are in a group that includes some of the best professional minds in the world..most all fail...best wishes with fx.....

Thanks for your best wishes shooting star. I don't think I'd make it in to any group that comprises the best professional minds in the world lol so don't over rate me.

Can't wait to see some great posts from you, you're obviously a cut above me and I will gladly sit at your feet ...so how about making some genuine contributions and helping us failures out?
 
Quote from Jahajee:

AN INTRO, rambling on...

I use 1-m, 5-m, and 60-m ES and NQ charts. Lately, I have
focused on Es scalping.

I prefer scalping against the trend. I particularly enjoy scalping against markets that are dropping or rising quickly, in a big range day, like this week. It seems to me that markets moving quickly tend to overshoot, especially on the downside,

The key to scalping is to keep losses small, and to actually take these losses rather than 'hope' for the markets to come back to you. It may eventually do so but by that time you would have ruined the trading day by holding on to your cherished egoistic position that you want to prove that you got it right.

My position size is 8 lots, usually entering all immediately or in two entries but I begin to scale out as soon as I have 2 or 3 points profit and set a stop at break even on the rest. Commissions are quite low so I feel free to trade as much as I wish without being bothered with commissions & slippage. With less liquid markets or in fact any market other than ES and NQ you would consider the cost of commissions & slippage.

My tools: a momentum indicator - basically a 10-bar momentum on the ES 1-m chart, with a 4-bar average of momentum and an upper and lower momentum band that is the 30-bar average of momentum. I have oversold and overbot momentum lines at 30 and 70 % of the momentum average.

Next I have overlaid on the above a very ST RSI - 5 or 7 bars

And, I find quite useful the Awesome Chaos oscillator which is a 5/34 oscillator, you can select other values.

MY price chart is 1m ES candlestick, with ST MA - 5bar, and long MA - 200 bar. I have 10-bar breakout high and low indicators and pivot high and low 5, 10, and 20 bars.

I also have a 1-m TICK and VIX chart on another PC and several charts on another, and Bloomberg online TV and NY TIMES etc on another.

I have Multicharts and TOS, as well as backup to broker.

I have a trading system running live based on the Awesome Oscillator but I am a discretionary trader; the tools provide me with a visual image of what is happening, the trading system buys and sells and exits allow me to track what is happening and than make decisions as to enter and exit.

My trades may last as long as 5 minutes and as short as 30 seconds. I only care about market direction during the duration of a trade, I do not care if the market is going up or down in the next 15 minutes or hour or tomorrow. My policy is to take profits and move on to the next trade. Exit quickly - win or lose, and get on to the next trade.

Guys, someone offering ideas to try.

Jahajee, a quality post mate. Well done!
 
Quote from shooting star:

Yoohoo............don't feel bad now.......i just checked in here and see how you gave up the eminis as u now tout the fx.......another emini intraday failure

Well, been waiting for a quality contribution from shooting star but seems he burned out.

Beats me how anyone thinks one market is that much different from any other. Same PA signals, same S&R, same old same old. So no point in "touting" any market.

Anyway, what I do want to bring out is that a scalping style within a bigger picture (letting the trade run) has been perfect for trading this market. However, you need to know where the key entry points are or you can get whipped to death.

The moves are huge by comparison to what we have been used to and a lot of the PA is mushy, overlapping bars, so boxing clever is the name of the game.
 
Quote from cashmoney69:

can scalping be done off one time frame because of the small holding time of the trades?

Yes because it can be done just using the Dom T&S but I don't trade that way. One timeframe is perfect if you are only interested in a few ticks/pips but if you are looking to let a poition run, something that pays big rewards now, then imho several timeframes help ascertain when to hold for big scores.

At the moment in Fx the 1 min bars can be mushy overlapping low quality stuff so bigger timeframes allows you to ignore the noise until better quality structure appears.
 
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