Why Pearl Harbor was deception.

I wonder how much longer "historians" will claim that FDR didn't know that the so-called "surprise" attack was coming. FDR did not only sacrifice thousands of soldiers at Pearl Harbor, he also brought about the capture of 85,000 US soldiers in the Phillipines because he gave practically all US tanks and planes manufactured in prewar years to the British .


It's an absolute fact that FDR provoked Pearl Harbor by:
1) Ordering the Japanese government to remove their troops from Manchuria;
2) Imposing an oil embargo on resourceless Japan;
3) Freezing Japan's economic assets in the U.S.; and 4) moving the entire Pacific Fleet from California to Hawaii.


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Author of "The Day Of Deceit", Robert B. Stinnett.

Robert Stinnett, who served in the U.S. Navy with distinction during World War II, examines recently declassified American documents and concludes that, far more than merely knowing of the Japanese plan to bomb Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt deliberately steered Japan into war with America.

Roosevelt knowingly sacrificed American lives in order to enter the war on the side of England.

FDR, who desired to sway public opinion in support of U.S. entry into WWII, instigated a policy intended to provoke a Japanese attack. The plan was outlined in a U.S. Naval Intelligence secret strategy memo of October 1940; Roosevelt immediately began implementing its eight steps (which included deploying U.S. warships in Japanese territorial waters and imposing a total embargo intended to strangle Japan's economy), all of which, according to Stinnett, climaxed in the Japanese attack.


The book quoted above has received a lot of praise from historians, yet, there is no outrage in the media.

"There is plenty of news value to Stinnett's book. Why? Because he has amassed evidence that yields... a far more precise knowledge of who knew what and when than any previous author has presented."

-Steve Weinberg, The San Francisco Chronicle


"It is difficult, after reading this copiously documented book, no to wonder about previously unchallenged assumptions about Pearl Harbor."

-Richard Bernstein, The New York Times Book Review


"A fascinating and readable book that is exceptionally well presented."

-Bruce Bartlett, The Wall Street Journal


"Stinnett has made a sickening discovery through the Freedom of Information Act...FDR must have known...Day Of Deceit is perhaps the most revelatory document of our time."

-Tom Roeser, Chicago Sun-Times


"Thanks to Stinnett's thorough research, those who will debate this topic in the future will have a fuller picture of the real story behind the 'Day of Infamy.' "

-Ed Halloran, Rocky Mountain News

"Backed by seventeen years of research and using more than two hundred thousand interviews and newly declassified documents, Stinnett makes devastating revelations....[He is] a model researcher....December 7, 1941 is indeed 'a date that will live in infamy.' Thanks to Stinnett, we now know where the infamy really lay. A sobering blockbuster, an absorbing read, and a model of revisionist history, Day Of Deceit does much to unmask the awful truth about Pearl Harbor. All Americans interested in our entry into World War II- or concerned with our government's trustworthiness-should read it."

-John Attarian, The Detroit News

"Stinnett makes points that disturb conventional thinking about the Pearl harbor attack."

-Lynwood Abraham, Houston Chronicle

"Explosive, revealing, and disturbing, Day of Deceit gets to the heart of the debate about America's leadership as the nation was was swept into the war. A triumph of historical scholarship and a valuable contribution to the record of World War II."

-Michael D. Hull, World War II Magazine


"Robert Stinnett has come as close as any mortal will to proving not only that the president had a pretty shrewd idea the Japanese planned to attack, but that he did everything in his power, short of declaring war, to make sure they would. After almost sixty years and the destruction of intelligence documents- a single ' smoking gun ' will never be found. But the case put together by Stinnett during thirteen years of research, painstaking use of the Freedom of Information Act, and interviews with participants, is more than persuasive."

-Rupert Cornwell, The London Independent


"An explosive well-written look at the events leading up to the Japanese raid on Pearl Harbor, including FDR's provocation of the attack, by a WWII veteran and longtime journalist....Stinnett has left no stone unturned in this account, which should rewrite the historical record of WWII."

-Kirkus Reviews

"Stinnett provides overwhelming evidence that FDR and his top advisors knew that the Japanese warships were heading towards Hawaii. The heart of this argument is even more inflammatory: Stinnett argues that FDR, who desired to sway public opinion in support of U.S. entry into WWII, instigated a policy intended to provoke a Japanese attack....If Stinnett is right, FDR has a lot to answer for- namely, the lives of those Americans who perished at Pearl harbor, Stinnett establishes almost beyond question that the U.S. Navy could have at least anticipated the attack."

-Publishers Weekly (starred review)

Here is an interesting timeline showing how FDR led America slow into war. Keep in mind that the Pearl Harbor attack took place at December 7, 1941. Yet, FDR was doing everything he could to provoke both Germany and Japan before that date.

Pay attention to the events, that took place before the Pearl Harbor attack.

http://www.worldwar-2.net/timelines/the-americas/the-americas-index-1941.htm

After Roosevelt had pushed the Japanese against the wall with the oil embargo and the other provocations, the Japanese reaction was assured. Roosevelt had already started an undeclared war against Germany with Lend-Lease, the establishment of military bases in Iceland and reporting the locations of German warships to Churchill. By December 7-11 Hitler was well aware that he was at war with the U.S.A....

The Japanese were rather brutal with the Chinese, but in hindsight it would have been a lot better to allow them to control China than Mao Tse Tung, who killed tens of millions. Once again, as in eastern and central Europe, an Allied victory meant death or misery for huge numbers of people.
 
Quote from Haroki:

More like - He wanted to enter the war on the side of Russia

In my opinion, FDR hated the Germans and was a great admirer of the British empire. He was a lobyist for war during the years preceding the US entry in the First World War and he never changed his opinion about Germany. Also, his Jewish ancestry caused him to feel a great deal of resentment towards Hitler.

FDR even knew that Pearl Harbor was coming 14 days in advance and did nothing to stop it, can anything be worse than that? Sacrificing your own troops to advance your own agenda, that was exactly what he did.

Just as World War I, WW2 was also a war that we entered on false pretenses. 400,000+ brave Americans died believing they were defending freedom, when nothing could be further from the truth.
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

FDR stands alone as the only truly bad President of the past century. He was rotten to the core.

Maybe we should concentrate on the present rather then 75 years ago???? j
 
Quote from TM_Direct:

Very timely......only...what 66 years later?????

Unfortunately, yes, but the documents that prove FDR's criminal deeds have only relatively recently been declassified.

Stinnett credits most of his book with documents he received after he filed a series of requests through the federal Freedom of Information Act. Copies of some of the declassified documents -- including McCollum's five-page memo, pages detailing what National Archives sites or other research libraries were used and copies of intelligence reports -- compose almost one-third of "Day of Deceit."

Author cites eight steps to provoke Japan to attack the United States in early 1940s.

• 1. Arrange for use of British bases in the Pacific.

• 2. Arrange for use of Dutch bases and supplies in Indonesia.

• 3. Aid Chinese government of Chiang Kai-shek.

• 4. Send cruisers to the Orient, Philippines or Singapore.

• 5. Send submarines to the Orient.

• 6. Keep most of U.S. Fleet in area of Hawaii.

• 7. Insist that Dutch refuse Japanese demands for undue economic concessions, particularly oil.

• 8. Along with the British Empire, embargo all trade with Japan.


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World War II is without a doubt a war that had to be fought, and one that without American's intervention would have been a victory for the bad guys. I do think that FDR knew that the attacks would likely come and did nothing to stop them. He did so because the overwhelming pulbic opinion in America was to stay out of the war, to remain "neutral" and he understood that this was not acceptable, but something dramatic had to happen in order to change the winds in America. Everything is not always neat and pretty when it comes to matters of war and peace.
 
Quote from Nabuchodonosor:


Just as World War I, WW2 was also a war that we entered on false pretenses.

Why is it that all the anti-us thread starters (probably the same person using aliases, but whateva) want the readers to believe that they are us citizens, by "subtlely" using "we" or "us" in these posts?

Or has this already been discussed?
 
This isn't exactly earth shattering news. Go rent a copy of "tora, tora, tora" a pretty good movie made in the early '70's about Pearl Harbor.
 
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