Why Is The Obvious Not So Obvious?

The Oracle · Sep 30, 2011

Quote from unspunmile:

Thank you for answering my question about coding. Yes, that is what I meant.

But an âideaâ is not an âIdealâ! That is where your trouble often lies! Only a few - a very, very few - of your ideas ever come true. And very, very few of your thoughts and plans ever materialize if they are made up of ideas instead of Ideals. An Ideal always manifests itself in action and becomes a reality. Unless it does so, it is not an Ideal.

too many books on self improvement..it is very hard to find the good ones..but they are a few there

let us think about only thing that we need to remember to help us with our trading..and that is..common sense

before u trade..think about what u are doing and why u are dong it

the why is easy..as u are trying to make some money

the what is not so easy..as there is so much shite out there it is no wonder most haven't got a clue what they are doing

the first thing one must do before risking any money is make sure that they do not lose too much on any one trade..simple yes..but so hard for so many..as they think they have to be right when they place a trade

u can think what u what..when u want..but if u don't do what must be done..when it needs to be done..u will never make any money worth talking about..it is common sense..really

so..what is the most important thing..in order to make money trading?

The Oracle · Sep 30, 2011

Quote from Onra:

Hi TO,

Can you tell us when you would have entered a trade?
If you won't tell the moment, please give us the day(s) only.

Thanks,
Onra

every day

u make money trading by being in the right place at the right time..and by doing what needs to be done

if u think that u need to have some TA signals to make money trading...then u are thinking the hard way

think the easy way..and say to yourself..why would the price now move up or down..and how far should i expect it to travel before i get out!

SnakeEYE · Sep 30, 2011

Quote from taoistmon:

beware this poster.. (TE/TO/NY... all these guys)

they could very well be in the process of SETTING YOU UP!

setting you up to take huge losses later on in the 'game'.

1) it is very interesting and weird that anyone would start commenting and posting on very very old threads years after everyone has stopped.

2) this thread is suppose to get ppl to think.... i do not even consider this an exercise . these guys could not have been anymore subtle (sarcasm) (did i really need to say that or did you guys figure it out ALL ON YOUR OWN. lol)

The Oracle · Sep 30, 2011

Quote from poland:

Many times chicken licken shout fire fire.....everyone runs.....
me being a stubborn donkey wants to be a minority....stay behind....and got burnt??

TO,
really appreciate if you can teach me a good way to survive.
doesn't want to be a donkey anymore....

simple..if u think the market is going to go up..then go short..and if u think the market is going to go down..go long

do this until u start to lose..then u can go back to your original way of thinking

it is very easy PL..reward is always related to risk..learn how to master the risk aspect of trading and the reward will soon follow

however..let us not forget that some people are new to this game..and..one must also understand that risk control alone is not enough to make u money..for..u must have your double zero..u must have a simple method that will make u money over a set number of trades..and..the number of trades required will depend on the market u choose to trade

take fx for instant..if u had decided to take up trading the eurusd recently..maybe due to some sexy advertising by those who sell information to the public

..u might just have lost most of your hard earned money in a few weeks..or even days

and then..u will turn around and say to someone..i should have not listened to those fools..with their proven profit methods

u should never have listened to them..in fact..u should never listen to anyone who tells you they know what way the market will go next..for..anyone who speaks this way..is showing that they know absolutely nothing about trading for real and easy profits

u do not have to know what way the market MIGHT go in order to make money trading..all u need to know is that when it starts to move..form a certain level..then your odds of making money are far greater than if it moved from some other level..and this is where u enter for low risk trade..and..how much u make on that trade..well..all u can do is be very attentive and be ready to get the hell out with your easy money when it is there right in front of your eyes

i wonder how many are willing to do what is required in order to learn how to make easy money..as we already know that everyone wants easy money..but do not like to hear the word WORK brought into the equation

how to survive

well..it depends on what market u have decided to trade..and what idiots you have listened to already

TO

The Oracle · Sep 30, 2011

Quote from justajuxtaposer:

Is price a function of time?.
Is time a function of price?.
Is volume a function of time?.
Is time a function of volume?.
Is volume a function of price?
Is price a function of volume?.
Is, is, is, is, is that all there is?.
Isn't it obvious that it's not obvious?.

the most important thing to know is the price..for..it is the price that will either make u money..or cost u money

once u know about the price..then u use the time to your advantage

Time = Money

Money = Price Movement

Price can not move without Time

volume is of course important..but can be ignored if the correct stocks are traded..highly liquid stocks

if u look at too many things u will not see TIME fly by

The Oracle · Sep 30, 2011

Quote from taoistmon:

beware this poster.. (TE/TO/NY... all these guys)

they could very well be in the process of SETTING YOU UP!

setting you up to take huge losses later on in the 'game'.

1) it is very interesting and weird that anyone would start commenting and posting on very very old threads years after everyone has stopped.

2) this thread is suppose to get ppl to think.... i do not even consider this an exercise . these guys could not have been anymore subtle (sarcasm) (did i really need to say that or did you guys figure it out ALL ON YOUR OWN. lol)

hmmm...it looks like we might have a real expert come to the rescue

any person with half a brain can see that TFF know what they are talking about..for..all posts are simple and make perfect sense

u say that we are setting people up to take huge losses..where did u get that silly piece of information from..as..it is very obvious that u do not have a clue what u are talking about..as the theme from all post by TFF is the exact opposite to what u describe

so..what is your real problem tt..are u one of those who try and sell information to the gullible public..but has failed miserably

anyway..the TFF only helps those who are willing..and able..to help themselves..the rest can go and do what they want..as they will continue to do..each and every day

now run along..i am sure that u will find many like minded people to converse with..and do not be bothered by our simple and common sense ways

The Oracle · Sep 30, 2011

Quote from Redneck:

English â is a languageâ¦, as is French, Latin, and Ket

This post of TOâs contains a couple of different languagesâ¦â¦

Price too has a language â one only need learn it

Then trading becomes simply reading a book, as it is being writtenâ¦. Every day a new pageâ¦. Every gap a new chapter

imho of course

RN

i have heard of the redneck trader that goes by the name of RN..as TE and the others have mentioned him on several occasions

a book is a very good analogy

every book contains chapters

each chapter is divided into paragraphs

each paragraph consists of a certain number of lines..the number of lines being directly related to the message being conveyed

what is the first thing u do before u read a book?

please let us know what type of book u are reading..for u might do things slightly different depending on the type of book

TO

The Oracle · Sep 30, 2011

Quote from Placebo:

ok..there are a few key things to remember from this book..but that is all..as the markets do change over time and certain things also change with the changing markets

1. there is no need to follow a large number of stocks if u have ur homework done

2. global matters can affect what way a stock price will move

3. when volatility is high..meaning uncertainty in the markets..the chance of anything happening at any time is greatly increased

what u need to do is make sure u use an approach that will allow u get in and out of the market quickly..when required..and also allow u to stay in the market a bit longer..when required

how will u know?

simple..learn how to see what is actually happening..and forget about what might happen

think about what u are doing and why u are doing it

know that a winner is only a winner when the money is banked

know that a loser can very easily turn into a black hole if u think that u are able to to tell the future

in summary..know your game..and stick with what u know works..no matter what

time is your friend..use it wisely

The Oracle · Sep 30, 2011

SnakeEYE · Sep 30, 2011