Why Is The Obvious Not So Obvious?
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Quote from The Oracle:
MN..i am starting to get angry with you:eek:
you KNOW that we do not care about what might happen..we only care about what is actually happening at this moment in time..for..we are not in the business of telling the future..we leave that for those who have learned to read the crystal balls by using TAthe so called experts
let us read some worthwhile text
Fast-moving objects and systems of objects
When an object is pushed in the direction of motion, it gains momentum and energy, but when the object is already traveling near the speed of light, it cannot move much faster, no matter how much energy it absorbs. Its momentum and energy continue to increase without bounds, whereas its speed approaches a constant valueâthe speed of light. This implies that in relativity the momentum of an object cannot be a constant times the velocity, nor can the kinetic energy be a constant times the square of the velocity.
Mass of an object approaches infinity as the speed of light is approached - I don't see what thats got to do with gambling though.
Somewhere in the distant past I recall TE saying something like WRB follow NRB follow WRB etc. In fact I didn't trade CLF, the need to work for a living gets in the way sometimes. The first chart seemed to indicate the price was more likely to fall than rise in any substantial way. So if I had traded CLF then I'd not have taken a long trade, and only shorted if price was seen to be falling. The chart was the basis for setting a plan of action should price actually move in the most likely direction, rather than predicting where price was going to go and placing a bet without confirmation.
Quote from The Oracle:
the first step to making money trading is to realize that 99.99999% of people know absolutely nothing about trading. anyone who wants to learn how to make money must understand that it is all a load of rubbish and most of what is available is just there to get those who know nothing to part with their hard earned money:eek:
many years ago i myself thought that others knew much more than i and i thus tried to emulate what they were doing. it took me a few years and a few big losers to realize what the game is really all about and how the double zero can easily be used to guarantee profits on a continuous basis
in order to advance one must be willing and able understand what common sense really means!
t=$
a child can see..what is will be
the adult now..knows all and how
if one but look..back thru the book
a story find..that makes one blind
to see again..take out the pen
the ink will show..what needs to know
and when ink dry..tear in the eye
for then it clear..the wasted year
How to do this?
a friend in need..a friend indeed
and many find..the friend was blind
look straight ahead..no turn the head
the ebb will flow..and then will know
Don't look to the past?
this game you say..can make you hay
but hay needs sun..to make the ton
without the wet..the hay will sweat
the key you see..is balance be
the mind indeed..must you feed
for if you suck..then feathers pluck
a child you see..will only be
a man stand tall..when mind not small
I'm a pheasant plucker most of the time
to use the head..get out of bed
a big fat arse..makes but a farse
too none you seek..for none are bleek
wake up you fool..and use your tool
Baffled!
next day when up..after the cup
turn on pc..and say not me
a fool for some..the time has come
to really see..that fool is me
Too true!
with open eyes..look to the skies
the price will move..when chime in groove
the tune is sweet..just like a sweet
and soon you see..no fool are thee
I only see $TICK on FSC and its delayed 15 mins
so let us think..what in the ink
the moral you see..is A to Z
somewhere within..is when you win
and then you see..time = money
Baffled again!
The Oracle
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hmmm...
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"It followed from the special theory of relativity that mass and energy are both but different manifestations of the same thing â a somewhat unfamiliar conception for the average mind. Furthermore, the equation E = mc², in which energy is put equal to mass, multiplied by the square of the velocity of light, showed that very small amounts of mass may be converted into a very large amount of energy and vice versa."
"A happy man is too satisfied with the present to dwell too much on the future"
Y'no, I cannot rhyme, because it takes to much time,
and time is the only thing in life I cannot get more of.
Wich, is why, time = money. Its more valuable, though.
So these silly posts have helped me solidify my thoughts you see.
Yes, there are no experts.
Budda said: If you ever see me walking down the road take a stick and kill me.
So, perhaps Einstein and Budda have shone light to the max..,
like a beacon or a torch or a guide along a river bank.
Perhaps, like a pirate I need to walk the talk or
walk the plank..
I thank those that keep this silly thread going, I don't fully comprehend its contents and verse, cos I'm simple, but, curious
and persistant.
I see a gondola sinking, sink, sink, gondola sink..alas the captain
has gone down with their gondola. But, perhaps thats just dogged persistance returning.. looking, feeling for the ryhme to finish off this
silly waffle. About a lost gondola captain. Alas poor captain i find nothing to ryhme, and I'm out of time.
I'm no expert, just a happening fool.
cheers
Bogan22
The fact that the secret is obvious suggests it is simple. but when looking more at this secret it can be seen that certain things were originally over looked or simplified or missed or not mentioned for
obvious reasons years back. Im not sure if we are talking about the same thing here. and not sure how to differentiat it from other strategies in the open. but there is only one thing that i can think of that will make such a big change.
i wonder if you have tried it while looking at after hour trading
. it would seem like after hour trading reflects it very well.
at times i can predict a whole days price movement maybe one of my target spots are not hit.
but there is more to it then meets the eye.simply using it as
prescribed is not sufficient... or maybe it is.. not live trading
, i dont look for profitable strategies but rather interesting patterns that may or may not be needed. But using it in different ways will show new ideas that i have yet to see any one mention. and yes, it is not something to be given. it is not ours to give, it can only be discovered.
if i told some one my new interpretation of it and you gave it on a forum i would be disappointed. my version will be past on to few close ones.
The problem here is that we all understand the value of "it" and do not want to bring it out. so any further discussion or sharing of new ideas is out of the question. i am ok with that if what i am learning on my own gives me a big advantage.if it does not then sharing what extra i have learnt and hopefully listening to what extra other have learnt will lead to a better system.
what is it ? i do not know if you refer to the same thing i refer to
. I have had 2 eye opening its. one more useful then the other but the less useful (at this time) is more surprising.
though they are not related one can combine both to come up with a master system. for now i have given my focus to the useful one and expanded it to the poin t that the original idea is simply a foundation for alot more.
LIJ as it is said in another language
. i find that there is more to explore
has anyone expanded on the idea if we speak of the same ?
obvious reasons years back. Im not sure if we are talking about the same thing here. and not sure how to differentiat it from other strategies in the open. but there is only one thing that i can think of that will make such a big change.
i wonder if you have tried it while looking at after hour trading
. it would seem like after hour trading reflects it very well.
at times i can predict a whole days price movement maybe one of my target spots are not hit.
but there is more to it then meets the eye.simply using it as
prescribed is not sufficient... or maybe it is.. not live trading
, i dont look for profitable strategies but rather interesting patterns that may or may not be needed. But using it in different ways will show new ideas that i have yet to see any one mention. and yes, it is not something to be given. it is not ours to give, it can only be discovered.
if i told some one my new interpretation of it and you gave it on a forum i would be disappointed. my version will be past on to few close ones.
The problem here is that we all understand the value of "it" and do not want to bring it out. so any further discussion or sharing of new ideas is out of the question. i am ok with that if what i am learning on my own gives me a big advantage.if it does not then sharing what extra i have learnt and hopefully listening to what extra other have learnt will lead to a better system.
what is it ? i do not know if you refer to the same thing i refer to
. I have had 2 eye opening its. one more useful then the other but the less useful (at this time) is more surprising.
though they are not related one can combine both to come up with a master system. for now i have given my focus to the useful one and expanded it to the poin t that the original idea is simply a foundation for alot more.
LIJ as it is said in another language
. i find that there is more to explore
has anyone expanded on the idea if we speak of the same ?
I'm not sure if there is only one obvious thing. I have a short list at least:
1. Do not guess the direction market will go. Wait till some money is on the table and make your bet.
2. Control your loses and let the profits run.
3. Manage your capital so that you are able to play the SAME game everyday.
1. Do not guess the direction market will go. Wait till some money is on the table and make your bet.
2. Control your loses and let the profits run.
3. Manage your capital so that you are able to play the SAME game everyday.
i dont think that counts as in it.. an it is something that makes a huge change not some thing that relates to risk controll. when you have an it risk controll is not really needed that much. an "IT" alllows you to to some degree have a greater out look on future price.
if you are not trying to predict the future then all you have to do is close your eyes buy a stock and sell if it moves down and hold if it goes up.
i posted a chart today of the ES. there was a channel that price stayed in throughout teh day. it also had trans-versing lines which one of them clearly was followed. price resisted my line.. my line was not a resistance line. it was a line that resistance occured at after my line was placed.
2 other lines were ignored by price. but that is how price is one just has to see if price will follow or take a new patch; maybe by limiting your loss who ever brought that up actually meant,,, if price does not do as predicted then get out even if price is going in your direcetion
if you are not trying to predict the future then all you have to do is close your eyes buy a stock and sell if it moves down and hold if it goes up.
i posted a chart today of the ES. there was a channel that price stayed in throughout teh day. it also had trans-versing lines which one of them clearly was followed. price resisted my line.. my line was not a resistance line. it was a line that resistance occured at after my line was placed.
2 other lines were ignored by price. but that is how price is one just has to see if price will follow or take a new patch; maybe by limiting your loss who ever brought that up actually meant,,, if price does not do as predicted then get out even if price is going in your direcetion