Why Is The Obvious Not So Obvious?

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Me Sir

Remember - There are no experts

And this is me:D

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ah, RN can you do me a favor and give me some input on my previous posts and help me make sense of all this and tell me if i have the right idea or if im just an complete idiot
 
Quote from wcmckee87:

ah, RN can you do me a favor and give me some input on my previous posts and help me make sense of all this and tell me if i have the right idea or if im just an complete idiot

That may take some time W87, as your posts are like a story:D
 
ya i have a bad habit of trying to leech as much information from sources I see as valuable as I can for 0 cost, my apologies...as you will see in my reply to you NYSE :)

although you guys are probably the assholes taking all the money outa my account so you owe me goddamn-it!

:)
 
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But, they can only fuck you up if you let them!

Now, of course one needs to have certain "skills", as in any trade or profession, but mess about in the markets and you will get fucked, guaranteed.

All the "books" and "courses" are of limited value, and some are of course much better than others, but those that sell such, you must remember are just doing it for the money, even a fucking child knows that.

So, when I say that I look at them "all as idiots", this is what I mean.

Of course they are not idiots, are they not making big money from it!, it is the people who - and yes, yours truly did walk that path, as most did and will continue to do so, for there is no other way but for a very small few - give them the money that are the idiots

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NYSE

Could you please give me your opinion on how one might acquire these "Skills” a person needs to succeed in the trading profession?

If all the "books" and "courses" are of limited value, what other options does one have?

PS. Nice Pics.
 
Quote from wcmckee87:

ah, RN can you do me a favor and give me some input on my previous posts and help me make sense of all this and tell me if i have the right idea or if im just an complete idiot


No Sir

For a few reasons

1.) I respect what NY is doing here too much

2.) I consider NY a friend although – I’ve never met him and we fought like cats and dog the first few times we talked

3.) You want the reward – do the work – a few of us have (blunt but true) Sir

This thread is not about "how to trade" – never has been – It is a very clear and concise (at least to me) guide to being a trader, and how a trader thinks..

It is invaluable to those who do the work – it’s a piece of trash to those who don’t – but I already knew this – dare I say possibly even before my mentor / guru did :D :D :D

Respectfully
RN
 
A strange thread...

No bad - just different.

I watched the bird video and as for a "reason" the bird stays - it looks like he is staking territory -that he has an advantage there and is standing his ground, watching for challengers. If there is another bird nearby who is chirping away, he has likely been displaced by the bird in the vid who has some advantage (size perhaps). I don't see a broken/hurt foot that was mentioned as a possible reason he stays perched.

As for Picasso's Night Fishing at Antibes, there is the most "obvious" image of the one fisherman about to make a killing, seeing the fish clearly (bigger) in his sight, while the other sees where he thinks the fish to be (smaller) and will come up empty - looking where the fish WAS - the way water refracts light and displaces an image from it's true location.
 
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Quote from RainMann:

Regarding the Picasso:

You mention that the painting was created just before Hitler invaded Poland. You were presenting us with a "context" which should be considered when looking for any messages that may or may not be hidden within the painting. Drawing a parallel as relates to trading, the lesson here is that when viewing a chart, one must view the chart within a certain "context" as well. Not knowing the context, or the existence of the context, will lead to "invalid assumptions" which lead to invalid conclusions.

You are saying that there is a context that we must consider when viewing a chart, and all of these exercises will better enable us to discern it.

My deep thought for the day...

RM
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Context...

There are 2 classifications of context:
a) initial and true context leading observer to the same insight which was put into painting by artist
b) other contexts which can influence perception of observers

Nyse, what is our goal here?
Find what Picasso was thinking? Can we?
Or find what people would think given the context?

"... I have understood my time and exploited the imbecility, the vanity, the greed of my contemporaries. It is a bitter confession, this confession of mine, more painful than it may seem. But, at least, and at last, it does have the merit of being honest." - Pablo Picasso"

Given above, may be Picasso was thinking about his paycheck, or the fish he will eat after finishing this paiting.


Aside from all of our "context" issues, do you see something inside the orange glow. It's located right near the top, just left of center. Is there a little tiny "Hitler" in there? If you try hard, maybe you can see the top of a little Hitler head, and maybe a bent arm. It could also be a smudge where he picked up the painting while it was still wet, but it is more fun to think that he put a little clue in there just for fun.

Also, even though his subjects look as if they had an unfortunate encounter with farm equipment, I find myself staring at Picasso paintings for an unknown reason. Yet, I can honestly say that I do not like them.

RM
 
NYSE,

Can the "Obvious" be possibly learned, or must it be bestowed.

Also, in my trading, I make heavy use of wave expansion. Should I investigate the 2-8-1 reference or will it take me places I need not go. (ie more rubbish)
 
ohh pleath mathter tell uth,
we have been good mathter, pleath tell uth mathter
we have been pathient mathter
pleath, pleath, pleath...

:p
 
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