Why Is The Obvious Not So Obvious?

Quote from Onra:

RN, thanks; great advice!

How do you combine a meticulous study for price action with that kind of attitude?

I assume you enter with a precise and thought out plan, but the moment you're in; you are also open for any new or contrary input.

Another idea would be to simply plunge in and go with the flow...

Please share your ideas with us!

Cheers,
Onra

Onra

I don't see a question here..

I do see a half assed fishing expedition

RN
 
Quote from v34rm:

Dear Jack, a real trade should look something like this....Entry....Stops and Targets
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So I see a long trend ending as annotated.
 

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Quote from baron193:

It would appear to me from what i've seen so far that intraday stock charts are easier to trade as they seem to respect classic patterns and trendlines a lot more than currencies or even indicies.
You are welcome to correct me if i'm wrong.

B193

Many want to trade the high volatility stuff…, what they fail to realize is along with that volatility - comes more risk

Imo it is very important we trade something that suits us – whatever that something ends up being

Pick a stock/ whatever with a volatility/ beta you can live with, then become an expert at trading it


Once you have the skills, you can use those skills on anything being traded

eta - sometimes they do not respect the classic patterns (what ever those are) - but they always respect the bigger picture



RN
 
Quote from jack hershey:

I mentioned a "set" of P's and T's for a dominant trend as compared tp a setof P's and T's for a mom-dominant trend.

To FF: for most of us charts flow an Order Of Events and the P's and T's are on the chart. In TN the Volume "P" is also put on the chart as is the Up arrow for each volume bar. When there is no UP arrow the chart is showing its opposisite the DOWN arrow as no arrow.

Now, on to your recent refined question as to how the peaks and troughs shift during a trend.

The first BO trough is when trend overlap ends and, as you know, there is a lot of CW type lagging trading going on due to the very mediocre reasoning of these types of folk.

The second trough is at point 3 and well after the traditional CW "early exit" crowd so you would expect only the more proficiient money makers would be still in and keeping on the correct side of the market.

The last climb to the peak does depend a little on the FTT relationship to much slower type trading coincidentalness (Hedge and other poor coefficient type manangement groups).

The aha was really an AHA, finally letting "volume leads price" sink in is so cool because it always assures that you are getting PUSHED ALL THE TIME BY "SMART MONEY".

Jack, I've heard plenty of intelligent people speak about various subjects in my life, and they were all easy to understand & follow for the most part.

You, on the other hand, are about as easy to understand as a 3-year old speaking gibberish.

Maybe you should "fail to traverse" in this thread and "bookmark" yourself somewhere else. Then you can "build an inference set of elements that matches an element from the finite set that is possible." And don't forget, "The 16 cells are quite sensitive to the path. Come to a place and make a dot there. Where you came from is a circle drawn around the dot. If by chance there is a repeated dwell time, just add an outer concentric circle." This is very important, I think.

Actually, never mind. I'm going to make you the first person ever to appear on my "ignore" list. I feel smarter already knowing I won't have to see any more of your gibberish posted here. Bye bye.
 
Quote from xburbx:

so making a consistently accurate contextual read of price during the day is very important?

reading the structure of price that day is more important than any pattern that comes up?

how do you/I LEARN to constantly read the market with enough accuracy to know it is going to be profitable? not always right, just profitable.

XX..how do u learn anything!

how does a baby learn to crawl!

how does an artist learn to paint!

how does a golfer learn to put!

how does a trader learn to trade!!!!!
 
we will cut to the chase and post the complete chart..when u see it completed for the day..think back to when u saw it first..and how damn wrong u were in your thinking on what the market will do next:D

T=$:)

i must hand it to RN..he was spot on even at a glance..do not be fooled by his little red neck:D
 
By doing. Try, fail, try and do a little better, fail and then keep trying until you don't fail

Quote from The Oracle:

XX..how do u learn anything!

how does a baby learn to crawl!

how does an artist learn to paint!

how does a golfer learn to put!

how does a trader learn to trade!!!!!
 
a few people here seem to be a bit concerned that TFF are starting to give away too much:)

thing is..u will only start to really receive when u start to give..that is the way it works

there is an old saying..as follows

"if only i knew then..what i know now"

for most..by the time they have this realization..it is too late..the money is already gone..or they get fuked up in the mind..so much so that they will never be able to make it as a trader

time is very important to successful trading..not only in relation to market dynamics..but also in relation to psychological conditioning..and if u think this is all bullshit..think again!

Incy wincy spider climbed up the spout
Down came the rain, and washed poor Incy out
Out came the sunshine, and dried up all the rain
And Incy wincy spider climbs up the spout again
:D

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Quote from xburbx:

By doing. Try, fail, try and do a little better, fail and then keep trying until you don't fail

exactly XX..but if done in the trading game..as normal..then one will be in for a big surprise..for..trading is so easy..it is the hardest thing ever to master..the exact opposite to the way we are wired:)
 
Quote from macattack:

Jack, I've heard plenty of intelligent people speak about various subjects in my life, and they were all easy to understand & follow for the most part.

You, on the other hand, are about as easy to understand as a 3-year old speaking gibberish.

Maybe you should "fail to traverse" in this thread and "bookmark" yourself somewhere else. Then you can "build an inference set of elements that matches an element from the finite set that is possible." And don't forget, "The 16 cells are quite sensitive to the path. Come to a place and make a dot there. Where you came from is a circle drawn around the dot. If by chance there is a repeated dwell time, just add an outer concentric circle." This is very important, I think.

Actually, never mind. I'm going to make you the first person ever to appear on my "ignore" list. I feel smarter already knowing I won't have to see any more of your gibberish posted here. Bye bye.

Thanks for putting me on ignore.
 
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