Why is hard to make money? Find trend, stops above previous/high low, TP @ next highs/lows

And why do you think are most hedge fund managers struggling to beat SPY? Are they that dumb?

It is not about dumb or smart. It's about seeing things (relations) that others don't see. Try out or do things nobody else ever did before. Think out of the box.
As they don't see the relations, they conclude everything is random. If they would see them they would say things are not random.

I always think about the hoax form Russian using a pencil in space while Americans needed to invest millions to be able to write on a paper in space. The Americans never thought about the simplicity of using a pencil.

 
It is not about dumb or smart. It's about seeing things (relations) that others don't see. Try out or do things nobody else ever did before. Think out of the box.
As they don't see the relations, they conclude everything is random. If they would see them they would say things are not random.

I always think about the hoax form Russian using a pencil in space while Americans needed to invest millions to be able to write on a paper in space. The Americans never thought about the simplicity of using a pencil.


Very good comment. Great example. Who knew the real value of a pencil?


I am not busting your balls over this post but there are several things you are missing here. I find it interesting that you post this because this is basically what I do. The reason it's not that easy as it sounds is that in the exact moment of the trade these things are not so obvious.

How do you KNOW the high/low at the EXACT moment the high/low are being printed?

By monitoring the sequence of events that constantly repeat themselves in the markets with the right tool. Once knowing where one is in trend, then as the non-Dominant traverse expressed itself, by looking on the DOM there will be a pile up of limit orders that price action reverses from as opposed to being eating through.

Until the trend has some legs you will not be able to draw trendlines that MIGHT signal likely areas of resistance.

Every two bar combination is a leg of a trend. These bar-by-bar trends require a different degree of mental capacity to monitor. They are the faster trends that get built upon and are the seeds of the larger moves.
Thus lot's of people do it the easy way and never attempt to add this skill to their skill set. Instead, the approach is to set large stops to avoid whipsaws to accommodate this behavior of the market.



How do you know price is not going to breakout from a shallow trend to a steeper trend where MORE money is to be made?

By monitoring volume, there is/are a context/s by which this is discerned before EOB. It requires special tooling when trading intrabar. EOB trading is difficult for most folks because they don't wait for EOB. They don't understand that legs of a trend are also repeated as legs to a bar on a smaller faster fractal.

How do you know when there is a break above this trend resistance that it's not just over exuberant buyers where if you held longer you would make more money selling to these Yahoos?

Not clear on this question.


,....or trend reversal where you would be buying at support and market goes hard against you.

Which is does, often and frequently. Much to my delight. This moment is preceded by decr volume. At this moment Dominance volume has arrived, during the non-Dom traverse of the prior channel. One's RTL is XO and the new trend segment is underway.


Also, most trends that are meaningful hug the upper edge of the trend channel,....until they don't.

The LTL, it's the best position for a short at the appropriate time as well as the lowest risk. It's also the best position to enter on a long. Understanding the price volume relationship sorts this out.


So how do you know when that will happen or is likely to happen? How do you know when it's best to take profit?

By building one's mind, the market system of operation can be observed. It takes work to train one's mind to begin to see. Unfortunately this endeavor is difficult for most and impossible for others.


A meaningful up trend will not reverse back down to the support line as often as hug the resistance line. Just look at the S&P for the last 8 years and the fact that we STILL have not had a 5% correction. How do you know where to set a stop loss in this strong up trend because there is ALOT of space between you and the support line if you are chasing this string trend. Where were you buying in that scenario?

By going to faster fractals, annotating and logging the same procedure that works on timescales of any duration. The monitoring resolution is not correctly coupled with the trading timeframe.


Get the picture....I can go on and on....

What you are saying is like saying being an NFL running back is easy. Just catch the ball when the QB feeds it to you and run where the other players are not. Find the hole and run through it. Stay in bounds and repeat over and over. Do this live when there are aggressive players wanting to take your head off and you have to hold on to the ball and you'll see it's not so simple.

Being an NFL running back is easy for those inspired by being it. They will do what is required and necessary to excel. Each step reveals the next. The journey started with an inspired thought.
All complexity can be reduced to it's simplest interrelated parts. Discovering the interrelationship of the market's granularity of display is the challenge.

All this can be had by understanding the accurate relationship between OHLCV data. Not including volume in one's understanding of the markets gives one an unnecessary handicap based on others who enjoy the same handicap.



Anticipate the difficult by managing the easy.
Lao Tzu

None of what I say will change a life. Posting a chart with a request for clarity and a desire to understand will.




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And why do you think are most hedge fund managers struggling to beat SPY? Are they that dumb?
%%. Good trends can pay a dividend-SPY does + has. And like DR. L Bates, banking committee noted ,some hedge fun d managers traded something like a non liquid $2,500 dog, for 2 $ 1,250 cats.....
 
Why is hard to make money?

The biggest reason is that trading is more of a 50-50 proposition than you've come to believe.

For every transaction... buyer is convinced enough to put money on it, the price is going up. Seller is equally convinced, the price is going down. Has to be that way or there wouldn't be a market.

One of your tasks as a trader is to tilt 50-50 odds in your favor. Easiest way I know is to learn "Price Chart TA". (And no, it's not possible to tilt the odds to 90-10.)
 
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Easiest way

Easiest way can be different for another trader. Depends of a lot of factors.

One of your tasks as a trader is to tilt 50-50 odds in your favor.

Tilt 50-50 odds in your favor is irrelevant if you don't know how much a winning trade will bring and how much a losing trade will cost.

I always calculate my total profits from all winning trades and deduct the amount I give back in all losing trades. If I give back less than 10% I am happy.
 
Tilt 50-50 odds in your favor is irrelevant if you don't know how much a winning trade will bring and how much a losing trade will cost.

HOGWASH!

You ALWAYS know how much a losing trade will cost... it's called a "STOP".

You NEVER know how much a winning trade will bring... unless you're naive enough to use "targets".

And no, you don't need to have >50% winners if your wins are bigger than your losses. But wouldn't it be better to have 55-60% winners than 40% winners if you could orchestrate it?
 
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I always calculate my total profits from all winning trades and deduct the amount I give back in all losing trades. If I give back less than 10% I am happy.

That statement alone says, "I trade with tight/very tight stops". If so, you always know what your loss potential is.

Otherwise, I smell BULLSHIT!
 
HOGWASH!

You ALWAYS know how much a losing trade will cost... it's called a "STOP".

You NEVER know how much a winning trade will bring... unless you're naive enough to use "targets".

A stop is only activated if i am really wrong. Over 75% of my losing trades are never stopped out. I always know my MAXIMUM loss, but never the REAL loss. A STOP is the theoretical maximum loss, it can even bi bigger, you are never 100% sure, even not with a stop.

I never use targets. I never said that I know how much a winning trade will bring. I see from past how much the total profit of winning trades is and also how much my total losses are in the losing trades. I continue to add up profits and losses and see how the ratio is changing.

If in a month I win $10,000 and give back in losing trades $1,000 I have a good ratio. No matter if the odds are 50-50 or 75-25.
 
If in a month I win $10,000 and give back in losing trades $1,000 I have a good ratio.

Pardon me if I call BULLSHIT on this. Highly unlikely. You're claiming your profit/loss ration is 10:1. You should already own the WHOLE FUCKING WORLD!

I get the impression you're spewing from your fanciful imagination rather than actual results.

Apology in advance if what you say is true... 'cause if so, we should all bow down and kiss your ring... you're one HELL-OF-A-TRADER!
 
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