Why is gold tanking?

People...gold goes up after the turmoil. Gold went to all time highs after stocks hit bottom in 2009. All the QE/debt we already have and now it's going to be ramped up even more...plus the memory of losses/pain...all good for gold, but later.
 
BONECRUSHER said:
People...gold goes up after the turmoil. Gold went to all time highs after stocks hit bottom in 2009. All the QE/debt we already have and now it's going to be ramped up even more...plus the memory of losses/pain...all good for gold, but later.
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what an ass backwards argument.

after 2000 and 2008 people are afraid of stocks... they still are, public participation is near all time low even after such a long bull run.

gold is like a comfort pick for them dumb money who have missed the stock run.
 
Contrary to popular belief, gold is no currency. In a panic situation everything is for sale.
Cash and government insured products are kings.
 
dozu888 said:
what an ass backwards argument.

after 2000 and 2008 people are afraid of stocks... they still are, public participation is near all time low even after such a long bull run.

gold is like a comfort pick for them dumb money who have missed the stock run.
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You need to quit with your "public/retail" argument...get over it. This is the world of institution dominance. The public doesn't participate the same way they used to probably because they're in too much debt. Your arguments about comparing "yields" to determine if stocks are cheap is ridiculous as well. Anything "yield" is so skewed right now because of central bank manipulation...how could you even trust yield comparisons?

Was gold a dumb comfort pick when it went from $700 during the crises all the way up to $1900 after the crises? Was it a dumb comfort pick when it went from $300 to $1000 in 2007? Dude, your argument is weak. So, if you do the math, gold lost 30% during the stock crash of 2008...what's it going to do after the crash this time? Especially considering all the damn debt public and private/QE/underfunded pensions/possible negative rates for the U.S./deeper negative rates for the rest of the world all being ramped up to further extremes. The fact that the FED had to manipulate the market up during a weak expansion and now it has to take it to a level so absurd to pull us out of this crisis is gold worthy. What about investors who've made bank this whole stock run and are NOW going to gold for the next government crack reflation trade? That doesn't sound like "dumb money"...they'll outperform and make bank on both sides of the cycle.

You've been the loudest cheerleader on this site for being a permanent stock bull. All I hear from you is "buy the dip". What do you say to the people you can't buy the dip because their already fully invested...you've admitted in the past that you've been basically fully invested as well. Are you ever going to stop being a broken record?
 
BONECRUSHER said:
You need to quit with your "public/retail" argument...get over it. This is the world of institution dominance. The public doesn't participate the same way they used to probably because they're in too much debt. Your arguments about comparing "yields" to determine if stocks are cheap is ridiculous as well. Anything "yield" is so skewed right now because of central bank manipulation...how could you even trust yield comparisons?

Was gold a dumb comfort pick when it went from $700 during the crises all the way up to $1900 after the crises? Was it a dumb comfort pick when it went from $300 to $1000 in 2007? Dude, your argument is weak. So, if you do the math, gold lost 30% during the stock crash of 2008...what's it going to do after the crash this time? Especially considering all the damn debt public and private/QE/underfunded pensions/possible negative rates for the U.S./deeper negative rates for the rest of the world all being ramped up to further extremes. The fact that the FED had to manipulate the market up during a weak expansion and now it has to take it to a level so absurd to pull us out of this crisis is gold worthy. What about investors who've made bank this whole stock run and are NOW going to gold for the next government crack reflation trade? That doesn't sound like "dumb money"...they'll outperform and make bank on both sides of the cycle.

You've been the loudest cheerleader on this site for being a permanent stock bull. All I hear from you is "buy the dip". What do you say to the people you can't buy the dip because their already fully invested...you've admitted in the past that you've been basically fully invested as well. Are you ever going to stop being a broken record?
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where does the institution money come from? moms and pops.

not a permabull... situational... so what, nothing is changing.
 
dozu888 said:
where does the institution money come from? moms and pops.

not a permabull... situational... so what, nothing is changing.
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So, you're saying the public participation is at an all time low and institutional money is at an all time low too...since that's also funded by the mom/pop/public?
 
Maybe Gold was once a safe haven.But....
2008 it dumped
The Greek banking crisis, it tanked

We have sophisticated derivatives and OTC systems in place (for hedging) that does not even consider gold as anything but a tradable asset. This is my opinion.
 
In time of trouble, people

buy safe haven gold ( and sell US$)

buy safe haven US$ (and sell gold)

sell gold ( because of margin call)

sell gold (because when economy is bad, you don't need much gold for industry)


So in time of trouble, quickily focus on chart and look for trading opportunities.
In time of trouble, you should buy AND / OR sell gold.
Don't listen to news.
 
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