Why is Biden arming Nazis?

[Snuskpelle]

Who the hell are you are why are you so nasty? I am the most logical thinker on this board.

Let me guess, you are a Biden supporter.

Oh yeah dude, and I am Jesus Christ.

Might have something to do with your post history. In fact, I would have mistaken you for a Nazi based on your posts at times. So it's mildly amusing you are projecting it on Biden (who I could care less about, the US needs new leadership, not 70-80 year old guys).

 

[Snuskpelle]

So if someone here post a picture of Klansmen donning MAGA hats atop their hooded sheets, you wouldn't be screaming the exact same thing that the 2nd poster on this thread did?

You would.


Most logical?
No.
That would be me.
Case closed.

You know what 'wildchild' is actually implying right? He either implying
a) that Ukraine is sufficiently Nazi that sending weapons to let it defend itself is an equivalence to 'arming Nazis', and that arming Ukraine should stop for that reason. Which is why Russian propagandists are so keen to paint that narrative.
b) Or, that Biden is preferring or condoning arming Nazis. It's silly, but whatever.

For sure, in the strictest sense, weapons will reach 1 Nazi or more, Ukraine are not too picky about who signs to fight with them at this stage. It's however intellectually dishonest like hell to wrap it into language that implies Nazism today is a power within the Ukrainian state and that weapon shipments that makes Ukraine win this war are supporting Nazism.

You can hide a lot of ambiguity within language for nefarious purposes. And in his next reply, he's more explicit about his logically broke and intellectually dishonest inferences. Case in point:

the Ukrainian military having Nazi symbology on their uniform is just fine

Pray tell, what proportion of the Ukrainian military dons Nazi symbology?

Finally, I am not trying to downplay that it's a major problem for Ukraine that certain Ukrainian units pick Nazi symbols, or the rarer case, that there also are genuine Nazis siding with them - the former would be better to outright ban and the latter needs to be handled very carefully.

 

[Tsing Tao]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1665726445493026819

 

[wildchild]

Please tell me where i exactly that i did say something like that, i am very curious.

I'll make it more clear to you since you clearly have a hard time understanding what i have said before, make assumptions based on absolutely nothing but your imagination and are twisting my words.

These few nazi supporting people who are fighting for Ukraine in the war have nothing to do with Biden, these few crazy white supremacists who did nazi salutes at one of their meetings have nothing to do with Trump.

As i have said, every country has their crazy folks, they might or might not support a certain politician, but that doesn't mean that the politician agrees with whatever his supporters do, Trump clearly distanced himself from those guys.

I was simply giving you an example that there are extremist on every side, everywhere, but i have clearly triggered something inside you .

Trust me, i am far from far left, but i find it very funny that you say "They both lack clear, rational thought, have low cognitive reasoning skills" about far left people, while your reply to my post is a perfect showcase of exactly that.

Talk about "vomiting ill conceived thoughts all over the forum" .

It is not a few nazi supporting in the Ukrainian army. It is rampant. It is so extreme that even the New York Times is alarmed by it.

It seems apparent that Biden is hell bent on sending US funded weapons to Nazis while Zelenky rubs shoulders with the world's elites while doing Vogue.

This is not the first time democrats pulled such a stunt. Yes, Obama tried to give the Muslim Brother F-16s and yes, the Muslim Brother was aligned with none other than the Nazis.

We all remember 2.5 years ago when Biden pulled out Afghanistan and handed over huge amounts of US funded military equipment to the Taliban.

The Biden apologists are really something else.

Taliban 2001

Tablian 2021

All brought to you by Joe Biden.

 

[wildchild]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1665726445493026819

If the Russians are claiming they are Nazis, and it turns out that they are Nazis, is it propaganda?

The fact of the matter is the US population has been lied to about this whole Ukraine thing since the start. Lots of dirty dealing involved. I love how in the matter of 6 months Ukraine went from being one of the most corrupt countries in the world to a stalwart of democracy.

 

[vanzandt]

I love how in the matter of 6 months Ukraine went from being one of the most corrupt countries in the world to a stalwart of democracy.

 

[wildchild]

You know what 'wildchild' is actually implying right? He either implying
a) that Ukraine is sufficiently Nazi that sending weapons to let it defend itself is an equivalence to 'arming Nazis', and that arming Ukraine should stop for that reason. Which is why Russian propagandists are so keen to paint that narrative.

If they are Nazis and they decorating their uniforms with Nazi symbols, is it propaganda? It seems to me, there are a bunch of people of there who are Nazis and they seem pretty proud of it.

 

[vanzandt]

One has to admit... it is pretty much a very ugly optic... I wonder why Zelenski doesn't nip it in the bud if its true. He should. I don't care how bad he needs soldiers.

 

[Tsing Tao]

If the Russians are claiming they are Nazis, and it turns out that they are Nazis, is it propaganda?

The fact of the matter is the US population has been lied to about this whole Ukraine thing since the start. Lots of dirty dealing involved. I love how in the matter of 6 months Ukraine went from being one of the most corrupt countries in the world to a stalwart of democracy.

Most amusing to me was how many folks just didn't realize that everything wrong with Russia was also wrong with the Ukraine. The two countries were one at one point. The same culture (with minor differences) the same rampant corruption, same military training, same ethical values, pride, etc. The same freaking everything. And I'm speaking as someone who has lived over there and gone all over both countries and can speak Russian.

But somehow all of a sudden one side is better than the other. Laughable.

 

[Bugenhagen]

Every country has their part of crazy and extreme people.

Ukraine has been fighting and trying to get rid of this small group of extremists for years, yes some of them are (ex) military, it has nothing to do with the war.

There are extremist everywhere and since you mentioned "if you are ridin with Biden this is what you support", there are plenty of examples of Trump supporters being extremists as well, such as doing nazi salutes during a meeting of white supremacists after yelling Hail Trump.

Save you some trouble here, Wildchild is like one of those lab rats with wires placed in his brain pleasure centre.

He wants to elicit indignation as it might get the button pressed. He has no sincere beliefs and no depth of knowledge to form any opinions worth engaging with as an intellectual exercise.

We just tease him trying to aim responses at a level he finds dissatisfying in a kind of morbid curiosity thats probably got too much autistic spectrum pedantry Some regard little beings such as he is as a bellwether for how other stupid/button press craving creatures are and how they may vote but thats really optimistic there's anything useful to gleen in this laborious manner.

Its self-debasement really. But what else is there to do?