Why Hillary can't be President

dbphoenix said:
A heavily-edited Bible. All the uncomfortable stuff has been deleted. Also known as the PAC Bible (Pick And Choose). All the right-wingers down here have a copy.
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As opposed to your judy garland record collection?
 
Frederick Foresight said:
...Although the men quoted above [who spoke negatively] are often identified as "John Kerry's shipmates," only one of them, Steven Gardner, actually served under Lt. Kerry's command on a Swift boat. The other men who served under Kerry's command continue to speak positively of him:
"In 1969, I was Sen. Kerry's gun mate atop of the Swift boat in Vietnam. And I just wanted to let everyone know that, contrary to all the rumors that you might hear from the other side, Sen. Kerry's blood is red, not blue. I know, I've seen it.

"If it weren't for Sen. John Kerry, on the 28th of February 1969, the day he won the Silver Star . . . you and I would not be having this conversation. My name would be on a long, black wall in Washington, D.C. I saw this man save my life."3

— Fred Short

"I can still see him now, standing in the doorway of the pilothouse, firing his M-16, shouting orders through the smoke and chaos . . . Even wounded, or confronting sights no man should ever have to see, he never lost his cool.

I had to sit on my hands [after a firefight], I was shaking so hard . . . He went to every man on that boat and put his arm around them and asked them how they're doing. I've never had an officer do that before or since. That's the mettle of the man, John Kerry."3

— David Alston



"What I saw back then [in Vietnam] was a guy with genuine caring and leadership ability who was aggressive when he had to be. What I see now is a guy who's not afraid to tackle tough issues. And he knows what the consequences are of putting people's kids in harm's way."2

— James Wasser
  • Many of Kerry's Vietnam commanders and fellow officers also continue to speak positively of him:
    Navy records, fitness reports by Kerry's commanders and scores of interviews with Swift boat officers and crewmen depict a model officer who fought aggressively in river ambushes and won the respect of many of his crewmates and commanders, even as his doubts about the war grew.

    "I don't like what he said after the war," said Adrian Lonsdale, who commanded Kerry for three months in 1969. "But he was a good naval officer."2


    "I don't know what conclusions you can draw about someone's ability to lead from their combat experience, but John's service was commendable," said James J. Galvin, a former Swift boat officer . . . "He played by the same rules we all did."1
  • How well all of these men knew John Kerry is questionable, and discrepancies between how some of them described Kerry thirty-five years ago and how they describe him today suggest that their opinions are largely based upon political differences rather than objective assessments of Kerry's military record. For example, Rear Admiral Roy Hoffman is quoted above, yet the Los Angeles Times reported:
    . . . Hoffman and Kerry had few direct dealings in Vietnam. A Los Angeles Times examination of Navy archives found that Hoffman praised Kerry's performance in cabled messages after several river skirmishes.1
http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/swift.asp



http://swiftvets.eriposte.com/


AAA, you just live from one hit piece to another.
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So a few guys spoke favorably of him and they were given instant credibility, but the many who spoke critically of him are motivated solely by politics?

This is old news, Kerry is history hopefully, but the way the left creates these fantasies and insists that they are truthful is fascinating.

It is timely in the sense that we will see many articles asserting that Bill Clinton was a great president and was unfairly targeted by Ken Starr. Or that hillary clinton was a whiz as Secretary of State. When the truth comes out, like it did with that Clinton Foundation book, their media allies will rush to their defense, just like that liar George Stephanopolous did.

I'm not a big fan of plenty of republican candidates either, but surely the democrat party can do better than Hillary, Bernie Sanders and party boy Martin O'Malley?
 
Money rules right ? Especially in the US.
The Party with the biggest war chest gets in. Greasing the wheels of power with money ( bribes ).
Talking of money, the odds being offered by canny book makers are:-
Hillary 1/10
Jeb Bush 5/2

Looks like a foregone conclusion guys.
 
Max E. Pad said:
As opposed to your judy garland record collection?
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You realize, of course, that you are engaging in outright troll behavior. When will you let this one go? Or will you pass it down to your children? Seriously, criticize to your heart's content. But please aim for at least passing relevance.
 
dbphoenix said:
A heavily-edited Bible. All the uncomfortable stuff has been deleted. Also known as the PAC Bible (Pick And Choose). All the right-wingers down here have a copy.
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The only edited bibles I know of are the ones leftists use when talking about queers.
 
Frederick Foresight said:
...Although the men quoted above [who spoke negatively] are often identified as "John Kerry's shipmates," only one of them, Steven Gardner, actually served under Lt. Kerry's command on a Swift boat. The other men who served under Kerry's command continue to speak positively of him:
"In 1969, I was Sen. Kerry's gun mate atop of the Swift boat in Vietnam. And I just wanted to let everyone know that, contrary to all the rumors that you might hear from the other side, Sen. Kerry's blood is red, not blue. I know, I've seen it.

"If it weren't for Sen. John Kerry, on the 28th of February 1969, the day he won the Silver Star . . . you and I would not be having this conversation. My name would be on a long, black wall in Washington, D.C. I saw this man save my life."3

— Fred Short

"I can still see him now, standing in the doorway of the pilothouse, firing his M-16, shouting orders through the smoke and chaos . . . Even wounded, or confronting sights no man should ever have to see, he never lost his cool.

I had to sit on my hands [after a firefight], I was shaking so hard . . . He went to every man on that boat and put his arm around them and asked them how they're doing. I've never had an officer do that before or since. That's the mettle of the man, John Kerry."3

— David Alston






"What I saw back then [in Vietnam] was a guy with genuine caring and leadership ability who was aggressive when he had to be. What I see now is a guy who's not afraid to tackle tough issues. And he knows what the consequences are of putting people's kids in harm's way."2

— James Wasser
  • Many of Kerry's Vietnam commanders and fellow officers also continue to speak positively of him:
    Navy records, fitness reports by Kerry's commanders and scores of interviews with Swift boat officers and crewmen depict a model officer who fought aggressively in river ambushes and won the respect of many of his crewmates and commanders, even as his doubts about the war grew.

    "I don't like what he said after the war," said Adrian Lonsdale, who commanded Kerry for three months in 1969. "But he was a good naval officer."2


    "I don't know what conclusions you can draw about someone's ability to lead from their combat experience, but John's service was commendable," said James J. Galvin, a former Swift boat officer . . . "He played by the same rules we all did."1
  • How well all of these men knew John Kerry is questionable, and discrepancies between how some of them described Kerry thirty-five years ago and how they describe him today suggest that their opinions are largely based upon political differences rather than objective assessments of Kerry's military record. For example, Rear Admiral Roy Hoffman is quoted above, yet the Los Angeles Times reported:
    . . . Hoffman and Kerry had few direct dealings in Vietnam. A Los Angeles Times examination of Navy archives found that Hoffman praised Kerry's performance in cabled messages after several river skirmishes.1
http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/swift.asp



http://swiftvets.eriposte.com/


AAA, you just live from one hit piece to another.
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"I never saw, heard of, or participated in any Swift boat crews killing cattle, poisoning crops, or raping and killing civilians as charged by John Kerry, both in his book and in public statements. Since we both operated at the same time, in the same general area, and on the same missions under the same commanders, it is hard to believe his claims of atrocities and poor planning of Sea Lord missions.

I signed this letter because I feel that he used Swift boat sailors to proclaim his antiwar statements after the war, and now he uses the same Swift boat sailors to support his claims of being a war hero. He cannot have it both ways, and we are here to ask for full disclosure of the proof of his claims."

— James Steffes


Kerry's swift boat supporters thought he'd be a great commander in chief even though he accused them all of committing numerous atrocities. Atrocities which everyone else say didn't happen.
Comedy gold.


You are serving a very useful purpose here, though, in that all your attaboys for dbp keep him engaged. I wouldn't want to say that he has a fragile psyche, but he did kind of disappear for awhile once Ricter stopped applauding him. Now that he has another cheerleader, he's back in the saddle. :D
 
fhl said:
"I never saw, heard of, or participated in any Swift boat crews killing cattle, poisoning crops, or raping and killing civilians as charged by John Kerry, both in his book and in public statements. Since we both operated at the same time, in the same general area, and on the same missions under the same commanders, it is hard to believe his claims of atrocities and poor planning of Sea Lord missions.

I signed this letter because I feel that he used Swift boat sailors to proclaim his antiwar statements after the war, and now he uses the same Swift boat sailors to support his claims of being a war hero. He cannot have it both ways, and we are here to ask for full disclosure of the proof of his claims."

— James Steffes


Kerry's swift boat supporters thought he'd be a great commander in chief even though he accused them all of committing numerous atrocities. Atrocities which everyone else say didn't happen.
Comedy gold.


You are serving a very useful purpose here, though, in that all your attaboys for dbp keep him engaged. I wouldn't want to say that he has a fragile psyche, but he did kind of disappear for awhile once Ricter stopped applauding him. Now that he has another cheerleader, he's back in the saddle. :D
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I was hoping that Kerry would break a leg.... and look...

Kerry breaks leg in bicycle crash; ends overseas trip early
http://news.yahoo.com/secretary-kerry-flown-swiss-hospital-bike-crash-095653357--politics.html
 
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