Evidently, I am not the only one who finds Z's conduct to be repugnant. Baron, I hope you're reading this.
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Why has ZZZzzzzzzz not yet been banned?
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Quote from Rearden Metal:
A team of dedicated troll zoologists has spent the past five years observing the troll in its natural habitat. Here are their findings:
<b>Trolling 101:</b>
If you happen to play poker, understand that professional trolls utilize a very similar strategy: Tight-aggressive
<b>Tight:</b> Don't give the victim an inch! Never admit the possibility of ever having been wrong. Never say anything which can be remotely useful or helpful to anyone. Never provide the prey with a single word he may wish to hear. Give nothing!
<b>Aggressive:</b> Focus! Your goal is not conversation or debate, but the exact opposite- nihilism. Mercy is merely a handicap of the weak. You are a disease with only one goal in mind: <b>writing whatever it takes to piss off the victim.</b> Contradict yourself all the time, repeat the victim's words verbatim like a bratty child, take the high road and repeatedly request that the victim stay on topic, post in every single thread and then accuse the victim of 'stalking' when he shows up in one of them, make ridiculous statements- but do it assertively and repeatedly, but most importantly:
<b>Laugh when nothing is funny!
Laugh at the victim constantly, use smiley faces, and pretend to completely miss every single point he tries to make. Remember, looking like a complete idiot yourself is unavoidable if you wish to troll at the professional level.</b>
Another key troll tactic is the practice of <b>winning by losing.</b> While the victim is trying to put forward solid and convincing facts to prove his position, the troll's only goal is to infuriate its prey. The troll takes (what it knows to be) a badly flawed, wholly illogical argument, and then vigorously defends it while mocking and insulting its prey. The troll looks like a complete idiot, but this is all part of the plan. The victim becomes noticeably angry by trying to repeatedly explain the flaws of the troll's argument. Provoking this anger was the troll's one and only goal from the very beginning.
Another important trolling tip I learned by observing LoZZZer's work: The lioness does not indiscriminately launch an attack on every animal she wishes to eat. She stalks her prey, determining which specific individual antelope is weak, tired and slow. The expert troll must use this very approach, as not every post is worth trolling. ZTroll specifically waits for someone to discuss a topic which is of great personal importance to the prey. With an innate sense of unyielding discipline- a product of millions of years of painstaking troll evolution, ZTroll crouches in the brush, patiently waiting for an <b>emotional, dedicated post.</b> A post where the prey feels so strongly about a certain topic, he can't restrain his emotional enthusiasm when arguing his point. Any post of this sort in P&R is guaranteed to spark a LoZZZer trolling effort. The predator will then deftly pounce upon its prey, pretending to laugh hysterically at the victim's strong willed, passionate assertions while distorting them in straw-man fashion. Eye on the prize, the creature will then tightly lock its fangs around the prey's neck, clinging tightly to the jugular while deftly wringing the life from its prey until the victim <i><b> cracks</i></b>- i.e., becomes highly frustrated and visibly redfaced. This in turn provides the troll with its well earned nourishment, as well as the creature's only source of sexual gratification: <b> Furious anger and anguish. </b> Thus, the circle of life continues.
Bingo! He is truly a Wanker.
Quote from Thunderdog:
At least two of ZZZzzzzzzz's previous aliases, OPTIONAL777 and ARogueTrader have been permanently banned. Both forum and chat moderators know that ZZZzzzzzzz is the current incarnation. This member is no less a troll now than when he was banned under his two previous aliases. So why is he still here? If you banned him before for the same conduct he is displaying now, then why have you not yet banned him again? Do you have standards of conduct or do you not? Do you enforce these standards or do you not? Please advise.
Baron signed a contract with the Devil. Baron agreed to sacrifice his opportunity to promote quality discussions on his website. He agreed instead to make it a playground for internet trolls, confidence men, and miscellaneous other sociopaths. He receives, in return, large numbers of site views, which result in advertising revenues.
Some people still try to conduct serious discussions on EliteTrader, because they haven't yet figured out that the site only pretends to be about trading, and only pretends to be elite.
Baron's own statements demonstrate that he has no standards of conduct:
Quote from Baron:
He hasn't been banned because we haven't received any significant number of complaints about him.
Baron's standard is no standard of conduct. It is, instead, the mindless and standardless standard of mob rule. Anything is permitted, as long as the number of gaping primates who complain about it remains sufficiently small. He is unlikely to change his ways, unless he gets a "significant number of complaints" about his lack of standards; and even then, he still probably won't change.
I started a thread, many months ago, about the problem of obstacles to serious discussion on ET. Baron allowed an overwhelming amount of anti-social, abusive, and disruptive behavour to occur on that thread, some of which was deleted but too little and too late, until he finally closed the thread. So the obstacles to serious discussion are so severe, on ET, that they cannot even be seriously discussed on ET.
For those interested in a glimpse of sheer trolling excellence, witness the first three pages of this thread. (You can skip the long thread opening post to save time. Just start at the second post- mine):
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53333&perpage=6&pagenumber=1
Back before I fully understood LoZZZer's tactics and motives, I was prey. Observe the skill and grace of the creature as it perfectly executes the above mentioned 'Winning by Losing' strategy, and then proceeds to hungrily feast upon the spoils.
This example is what separates truly professional trolls like LoZZZer from all the rest, and serves as exhilarating inspiration to amateur trolling scholars, wannabe con-men, borderline personality disorder sufferers, and a great variety of other budding sleazebags, assholes and motherfuckers all across the globe.
So Bitstream, does the above example of trolling magnificence look like something a 'decent guy' would ever perform?
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53333&perpage=6&pagenumber=1
Back before I fully understood LoZZZer's tactics and motives, I was prey. Observe the skill and grace of the creature as it perfectly executes the above mentioned 'Winning by Losing' strategy, and then proceeds to hungrily feast upon the spoils.
This example is what separates truly professional trolls like LoZZZer from all the rest, and serves as exhilarating inspiration to amateur trolling scholars, wannabe con-men, borderline personality disorder sufferers, and a great variety of other budding sleazebags, assholes and motherfuckers all across the globe.
So Bitstream, does the above example of trolling magnificence look like something a 'decent guy' would ever perform?
he might have pissed u off, well, sure he did but he never offended neither trolled my arse. so far he always been a decent guy to me and that's the way i know him to be, besides, i try get along with everyone here, joining a ban the boogie club it's far off my mind now, waay too intense imo.
Quote from Rearden Metal:
For those interested in a glimpse of sheer trolling excellence, witness the first three pages of this thread. (You can skip the long thread opening post to save time. Just start at the second post- mine):
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53333&perpage=6&pagenumber=1
Back before I fully understood LoZZZer's tactics and motives, I was prey. Observe the skill and grace of the creature as it perfectly executes the above mentioned 'Winning by Losing' strategy, and then proceeds to hungrily feast upon the spoils.
This example is what separates truly professional trolls like LoZZZer from all the rest, and serves as exhilarating inspiration to amateur trolling scholars, wannabe con-men, borderline personality disorder sufferers, and a great variety of other budding sleazebags, assholes and motherfuckers all across the globe.
So Bitstream, does the above example of trolling magnificence look like something a 'decent guy' would ever perform?
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he might have pissed u off, well, sure he did but he never offended neither trolled my arse. so far he always been a decent guy to me and that's the way i know him to be, besides, i try get along with everyone here, joining a ban the boogie club it's far off my mind now, waay too intense imo.
Wow, it's interesting that you persist in describing him as a 'decent guy' in view of the overwhelming evidence that he's a disgusting Troll, liar and hypocrite without a shred of decency or dignity.
However... your loyalty is commendable in some sense, if misplaced. The idea of judging someone on only your personal experience of them is also good, in theory, but occasionally dangerous, IMO.
What's interesting is that every time someone starts a 'Ban the Troll' thread, members I've never heard of show up and add their voice to the chorus of condemnation. Just goes to show that this pathetic liar is almost universally reviled and that his sophistry doesn't fly with any but the most naive.
i have been around all kinda people, fellas that u prolly wouldn't wanna talk to if they paid u to, nervermind hanging around them, trust me i am everything but naive, i can confidently say i am one street wise guy. they all did disgusting things but as far as it concerned me i couldnt give a flying fuck...of course that was mostly out of neccessity but it has raised my tolerance bar to a new level and taught me that all gheezers have some attributes no matter how bad they are.
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Wow, it's interesting that you persist in describing him as a 'decent guy' in view of the overwhelming evidence that he's a disgusting Troll, liar and hypocrite without a shred of decency or dignity.
However... your loyalty is commendable in some sense, if misplaced. The idea of judging someone on only your personal experience of them is also good, in theory, but occasionally dangerous, IMO.
What's interesting is that every time someone starts a 'Ban the Troll' thread, members I've never heard of show up and add their voice to the chorus of condemnation. Just goes to show that this pathetic liar is almost universally reviled and that his sophistry doesn't fly with any but the most naive.
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