Why has Star Trek done lackluster at the box office?

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Forbes said it was the marketing in the article below and i think they were partially right. I am a big fan and my kids wanted me to take them. But so far we have been to busy.

Uninteresting almost disjointed trailers...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhug...it-warp-speed-at-the-box-office/#1b10bf5f83f1

and... the 100 million mistake was making Sulu gay and they promoting that pre release. it was stupid.

Even George Takei (the prominently gay actor who played Sulu) says that the choice is unfortunate.
He was 100% correct and really could not have said it better. Sulu had a daughter in later star treks.


So yes... instead of catching this flick with my kids the first day or 2 (as we did with the previous 2.) ... I may try to watch it this week with my kids if we are not busy.






http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhug...it-warp-speed-at-the-box-office/#1b10bf5f83f1
 
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jem said:
Forbes said it was the marketing in the article below and i think they were partially right. I am a big fan and my kids wanted me to take them. But so far we have been to busy.

Uninteresting almost disjointed trailers...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhug...it-warp-speed-at-the-box-office/#1b10bf5f83f1

and... the 100 million mistake was making Sulu gay and they promoting that pre release. it was stupid.

Even George Takei (the prominently gay actor who played Sulu) says that the choice is unfortunate.
He was 100% correct and really could not have said it better. Sulu had a daughter in later star treks.


So yes... instead of catching this flick with my kids the first day or 2 (as we did with the previous 2.) ... I may try to watch it this week with my kids if we are not busy.






http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhug...it-warp-speed-at-the-box-office/#1b10bf5f83f1
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Why not move this to Chit Chat or the trash bin.
 
For me, the last film (Into Darkness) pretty much burnt me on the reboot.

I thought the first new film was ok. Change things up and tell a different story. But what the hell were they thinking trying to remake Wrath of Khan?

Yeah making Sulu gay is a boneheaded kotow to SJW's everywhere but that is not what stopped me paying to watch.
 
trash bin is fine.

but as a long time Star Trek fan, I am concerned they may cut back production values because this one did not do as well as it should have.
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You don't mess with the original cast in such an obviously preachey way.

a well written Star Trek manages to preach in a much more compelling and less obvious way.
 
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Go back to the archives or start a Star Trek blog, I'm sure there were plenty of episodes with homo's/Lezbo's in them, just some people are to far gone to figure it out.
 
its not the homo or lesbian issues.
its far more sophisticated or subtle to a Star Trek fan.
see below...
by the way I have multiple blog/ websites.

just not political ones.




http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/george-takei-reacts-gay-sulu-909154

Except Takei wasn't overjoyed. He had never asked for Sulu to be gay. In fact, he'd much prefer that he stay straight. "I’m delighted that there’s a gay character," he tells The Hollywood Reporter. "Unfortunately, it’s a twisting of Gene’s creation, to which he put in so much thought. I think it’s really unfortunate."

Takei explains that Roddenberry was exhaustive in conceiving his Star Trek characters. (The name Sulu, for example, was based on the Sulu Sea off the coast of the Philippines, so as to render his Asian nationality indeterminate.) And Roddenberry had always envisioned Sulu as heterosexual.

Proving that is not so simple a matter, however. Sulu never had an onscreen love interest duringStar Trek's initial three-season run. He did mention a daughter, Demora, who appeared in 1994's Star Trek Generations, the seventh film in the series (she was played by Jacqueline Kim).


But the only reference to how Demora was conceived appears in a secondary canonical source: the 1995 Star Trek novel The Captain's Daughter. "It was, to put it crudely, a one-night stand with a glamazon," Takei explains. "A very athletic, powerful and stunningly gorgeous woman. That’s Demora’s mother."
 
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its not the homo or lesbian issues. Star Trek has all been liberal. .
its far more sophisticated to a Star Trek fan.

by the way I had a blog/website combo which brought in over six figures a year for a few years.

I am working on another right now.



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/george-takei-reacts-gay-sulu-909154

Except Takei wasn't overjoyed. He had never asked for Sulu to be gay. In fact, he'd much prefer that he stay straight. "I’m delighted that there’s a gay character," he tells The Hollywood Reporter. "Unfortunately, it’s a twisting of Gene’s creation, to which he put in so much thought. I think it’s really unfortunate."

Takei explains that Roddenberry was exhaustive in conceiving his Star Trek characters. (The name Sulu, for example, was based on the Sulu Sea off the coast of the Philippines, so as to render his Asian nationality indeterminate.) And Roddenberry had always envisioned Sulu as heterosexual.

Proving that is not so simple a matter, however. Sulu never had an onscreen love interest duringStar Trek's initial three-season run. He did mention a daughter, Demora, who appeared in 1994's Star Trek Generations, the seventh film in the series (she was played by Jacqueline Kim).


But the only reference to how Demora was conceived appears in a secondary canonical source: the 1995 Star Trek novel The Captain's Daughter. "It was, to put it crudely, a one-night stand with a glamazon," Takei explains. "A very athletic, powerful and stunningly gorgeous woman. That’s Demora’s mother."
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Sorry, have never seen a full episode, I do recall when I was a kid if anyone of my friends wanted to watch it they were no longer invited over...Good luck on your future endeavor, hopefully it's not more of this political circle jerk.
 
Star Trek Beyond was excellent.
Homages all around to the original series.
Banter and humor were there along with James T. Kirk usual heroics.

a solid 8.5 out of 10

Edit: Sulu thing is a non-issue
 
thanks... thinking about going this weekend.

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Star Trek Beyond was excellent.
Homages all around to the original series.
Banter and humor were there along with James T. Kirk usual heroics.

a solid 8.5 out of 10

Edit: Sulu thing is a non-issue
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