Sounds delicious. How's the fat loss coming (didn't you say you are dieting?)
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Why Fat is the Preferred Fuel for Human Metabolism
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Sounds delicious. How's the fat loss coming (didn't you say you are dieting?)
Quote from Banjo:
Japan scientist synthesizes meat from human feces
http://news.yahoo.com/s/digitaltren...rends/japanesescientistscreatesmeatoutoffeces
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"..Initial tests have people saying it even tastes like beef."
i was sure it would tastes like chicken!!
Quote from macho grande:
Sounds delicious. How's the fat loss coming (didn't you say you are dieting?)
You gotta try them, totally addicting.
I've dropped from 235 to 222 at 1500 cals. I've had to substitute hydrolyzed whey with BCAA (Ajinomoto) to keep cals down. I am dropping about 2lbs every 10 days. I've lost some muscle as it's apparent in my lifts. Thanks for asking.
Where did I say vegans eat natural game? I don't know of anyone defining a vegan diets like that.
Maybe if you were foraging full time for vegetation to eat you would get enough b12 from the soil. Personally, fond of washing my produce, I supplement it. There is no reason a person eating a whole food plant diet need be deficient in any of the other nutrients you mention.
Maybe if you were foraging full time for vegetation to eat you would get enough b12 from the soil. Personally, fond of washing my produce, I supplement it. There is no reason a person eating a whole food plant diet need be deficient in any of the other nutrients you mention.
Quote from macho grande:
Are you serious? Vegans eat natural game? That's odd considering the definition of "vegan".
Do you have any respect for RDA's? The RDA for B12 is 2.4 mcg. Are you seriously suggesting you can get that much on a daily basis from soil contaminated vegetables? You are getting your B12 from fortified food or a vitamin just like every other vegan out there. Fortified food, BTW, is B12 VITAMIN added to a processed food. Every study i know shows vegans have low B12 status at best.
In addition to B12 vegans may also lack zinc, iron, calcium and essential amino acids that make for a complete protein.
You are inadequately informed get up to speed.
Do you still smoke?Quote from resinate:
Where did I say vegans eat natural game? I don't know of anyone defining a vegan diets like that.
Maybe if you were foraging full time for vegetation to eat you would get enough b12 from the soil. Personally, fond of washing my produce, I supplement it. There is no reason a person eating a whole food plant diet need be deficient in any of the other nutrients you mention.
Quote from resinate:
Where did I say vegans eat natural game? I don't know of anyone defining a vegan diets like that.
I was replying to this post, you stated:
Quote from resinate:
Thats not the vegan argument being made on this thread. There is piles of research documenting the negative health effects of eating sizable amounts of animal products. The animal cruelty and industrial farming aspects are separate moral arguments.
Vegans do not eat any amount of food products of animal origin. The "vegan argument" is to refuse animal food because they feel even a small amount is harmful. That any amount is harmful, and that eating animals is immoral.
Where is the evidence for this?
Adding the proper proportion of lean meat to the diet improves the nutritional quality of the meal. Lean meat improves the essential amino acid profile of the meal complementing the amino acids that are deficient in plant matter. The end result is protein of a higher quality. (as well as quantity)
Regardless of these facts, vegans still refuse to acknowledge these facts. They cling to their irrational philosophy and stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the evidence.
No omnivore here is suggesting eating large amount of fatty and processed animal products do you suggest eating only carrots, for example? Of course you don't. A variety of plant matter is advised and even required; adding a little lean meat further enhances the nutritional quality of the meal. Meat offers a bit more protein and provides AA's that complement the deficient AA's of plant matter. As well provides ample B vitamins, zinc and a more biologically available form of iron (heme iron).
Vegans couldn't care less they ignore these facts rather prefer to foolishly adhere to their afactual philosophy.
Adding lean meat and fish makes for the nutritious meal.
If you read game eating from that, OK.
Quote from macho grande:
I was replying to this post, you stated:
Vegans do not eat any amount of food products of animal origin. The "vegan argument" is to refuse animal food because they feel even a small amount is harmful. That any amount is harmful, and that eating animals is immoral.
Where is the evidence for this?
Adding the proper proportion of lean meat to the diet improves the nutritional quality of the meal. Lean meat improves the essential amino acid profile of the meal complementing the amino acids that are deficient in plant matter. The end result is protein of a higher quality. (as well as quantity)
Regardless of these facts, vegans still refuse to acknowledge these facts. They cling to their irrational philosophy and stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the evidence.
No omnivore here is suggesting eating large amount of fatty and processed animal products do you suggest eating only carrots, for example? Of course you don't. A variety of plant matter is advised and even required; adding a little lean meat further enhances the nutritional quality of the meal. Meat offers a bit more protein and provides AA's that complement the deficient AA's of plant matter. As well provides ample B vitamins, zinc and a more biologically available form of iron (heme iron).
Vegans couldn't care less they ignore these facts rather prefer to foolishly adhere to their afactual philosophy.
Adding lean meat and fish makes for the nutritious meal.
Quote from kgharris:
I think what is critical is mixing it up and having variety so you don't get bored. There are beans with higher protein counts, and brown rice is healthier than white...but at the end of the day if you aren't pleased with what you are eating, you will revert back to bad habits. I love mexican rice and seasoned pinto beans...I eat it every other day at least. I also love Rice Pilaf and corn, black eyed peas and green beans (mixed together) with corn on the cob or some boiled red potatoes. I make my own refried beans out of my seasoned pintos and make burritos with pico de gallo or salsa. Black beans and rice with bell peppers and onions. Cajun beans and rice.
I did a quick Google search and this was the top result for listing protein grams...scroll down for beans. But, I wouldn't get too hung up on exact numbers and instead focus on making things you will like to eat consistently.
http://www.vegparadise.com/protein.html
This is very good advice as there is no much diference in protein content between diferent kinds of beans and rice anyway.
Thanks to other posters for great nutritional links with protein values . These links are extremely helpful to myself and others .
Thanks again.