Why Fat is the Preferred Fuel for Human Metabolism

Hey Chump,

Carb lovers like you should know about GLYCATION

Read up on GLYCATION.

Fact: Glycation is a destructive process whereby a sugar molecule (carbs = sugar) bonds with a protein or fat molecule - and renders it useless.
So the more carbs you eat = higer incidence of molecule destruction

In other words, accelerates premature aging. Also weakens your immune system, more susceptible to diabetes & other diseases.

FACT 1: there are such things as essential amino acids (from protein)
FACT 2: there are such things as essential fatty acids (from fats)

FACT 3: there are NO SUCH THING as essential carbs!

That says it all!

Have you had your resting blood glucose level tested?
Probably over 100...and which will get worse with age.

Based on your virtually wholly carb diet, you'll be getting adult-onset diabetes sooner than later.
(basically everyone is pre-diabetic. If you live long enough your pancreas will be less effective in producing insulin and/or your body will become less sensitive to insulin)

All those calories from peaches & shit are just empty calories. Sucrose.
Sure, they might provide some benefits of vitamins & whatnot - but could do better with a vitamin pill..

Bread = empty calories crap.
They have to fortify it with B vitamins, that's how useful it is in its original form.

All these empty calories do is raise your blood glucose level which means the pancreas has to secrete insulin to get it back down again.
No guesses that the more the pancreas has to work over many years...the sooner it will wear out, which is one of the causes of diabetes.

The only reason why the effects in your case might not be as bad as a lard ass on a cheetos & soda diet is because you are consuming LESS overall food intake meaning LESS calories.
Both of you are on nearly 100% carb diets

Likely you (like many vegans/vegetarians who spend all their time planning their meals) are on, whether by design or not, a form of restricted calories diet or carefully monitoring caloires, which obvioulsy reduces the deleterious effects of glycation (because of less carbs intake)

Make no mistake - a diet virtually wholly carbs will be detrimental to your health ...sooner than later


Quote from NoDoji:

Here's what I consumed today:

4 cups of white jasmine tea

Smoothie consisting of 3/4 cup blueberries, 3/4 cup raspberries, rice milk, pure cocoa powder, nutritional yeast, and ground flax seeds. (Sorry, Tobbe, no kale today :p ) (Approx 600 calories)

Brown rice pasta with Mondo Bizarro sauce (Moosewood cookbook classic, I leave out the cheese and oil)

European whole grain rye bread with baba ganouj and a pile of salad on top

Lima beans

Fresh pineapple

Fresh peaches

In fact, the only thing I don't eat is meat, eggs, animal milk and its products, refined oils (I eat the whole food the oil comes from), white flour and refined sugar.

I eat a nutritional high density cornucopia of food and leave out the nutritionally void foods.
 
Quote from running_bare:



FACT 1: there are such things as essential amino acids (from protein)
FACT 2: there are such things as essential fatty acids (from fats)

FACT 3: there are NO SUCH THING as essential carbs!

That says it all!


americans love carbs and they love bush and they love their private prisons, federal reserve (which is 100% honest),

thank god there is evolution, only the healthiest and smartest will survive
 
Quote from running_bare:


Make no mistake - a diet virtually wholly carbs will be detrimental to your health ...sooner than later

Oh most certainly!! Anybody with that kind of diet WILL experience poorer health earlier.
 
Be sure to buy virgin, cold-pressed coconut oil and not the partially-hydrogenated form.

Atticus, is that similar to bertolli extra virgin olive oil? I have been using it to cook most of my food trying to follow the mediterranean diet.

Quote from NoDoji:

I assumed the whole foods plant-based diet of Campbell, Esselstyn, McDougall, et.al., just over six years ago. Although I was an active athlete and thought my weight was fine, I lost an additional 12 lbs within 6 weeks and and stabilized at that level ever since, no matter how much I eat. My cholesterol dropped from around 200 to an ongoing average of 130. My B.P. averages 90/60. I also have never felt better in my life.

Seven of my friends read The China Study by T. Colin Campbell years ago when I discovered and recommended it, and all went whole foods plant-based. They experienced the same amazing results: allergies disappeared, signs of heart disease (high cholesterol and high B.P.) reversed to normal, arthritis and back pain were gone, stomach problems vanished, and a couple with type II diabetes were cured within a few weeks. That's right, cured. No sign of disease and no need for medication ever since.

The best fuel for human metabolism and optimal health and energy is complex carbohydrates. A diet rich in whole grains, legumes, fruits and veggies provides all the protein, calcium, and other nutrients needed for even a very active and athletic person. My nutrient levels were tested after five years of eating this way and they were all perfect, including B12, calcium and protein levels.

The question I constantly get is "Where do you get your protein?" The answer: ""Same place those big powerful animals like the horse, bull, and elephant get it. Plants."

The populations of the world whose diets consist mainly of complex carbohydrates, with little or no animal-based foods and refined carbs, have extremely low rates of cancer, heart disease, high blood pressure, arthritis, asthma, automimmune disorders, diabetes, and osteoporosis. And to prove that it's not their genetics contributing to these low rates of lifestyle-caused chronic diseases, when people from such populations begin easting a Western-style diet of refined carbs, fried foods, and animal-based foods, they reach rates of chronic disease similar to those who've eaten that way all along.

These physicians do not sell or promote supplements; they promote a healthy lifestyle. They offer free resources on the web, and inexpensive books and DVDs most of which are available at your local library. There recommendations are based on extensive long-term scientific evidence that came from non-industry funded research.

All I eat is plant foods, unrefined. No added oils, no white flour or refined sugars, no processed soy meat analogs (which almost all have added oils). And certainly no fish, eggs or dairy products. Who ever decided that those items were "vegetarian" in the first place???

Plants. They do a body good :cool:

Can i summarize this as basically "be a vegetarian"? The question is still valid, where do you get your proteins? I know a lot of vegearians at work and the basic sources for portein are: bean, tofu, and nuts. All 3 doesnt appeal to me. Been eating mostly fish and seafood over the years, I dont see a healthier alternative that you can get protein from.
 
Quote from newguy05:

Can i summarize this as basically "be a vegetarian"? The question is still valid, where do you get your proteins? I know a lot of vegearians at work and the basic sources for portein are: bean, tofu, and nuts. All 3 doesnt appeal to me. Been eating mostly fish and seafood over the years, I dont see a healthier alternative that you can get protein from.

We are fixated on protein. Most people consume twice as much (or more) protein than is necessary for good health and muscle repair.

If you eat a variety of whole plant foods (vegetables, fruits, beans, grains, seeds, nuts) you'll get more than enough protein. Calorie for calorie, broccoli contains significantly more protein than beef, with far more nutrients, no saturated fat or cholesterol and very little toxic residue.

I've never heard of a case of protein deficiency in our country, but at least half a million people die of heart disease each year, which is preventable by eating a whole foods plant-based diet.

Plants provide the healthiest protein source possible because they're at the bottom of the food chain. Animal sources of protein are quite toxic, mainly due to environmental toxins and toxins in animal feed that become heavily concentrated in the fat and muscle. A large percentage of meats tested contain antibiotic resistant bacteria as well. Seafood is very toxic, too, containing dioxins, PCBs, cadmium, mercury, lead, chromium, and arsenic.

It's possible to find organic free-range meats (or you can raise your own), but it's expensive and not necessary in any way for optimal health.

It's more than "be a vegetarian". I know vegetarians who eat tons of cheese, fried foods, oily foods, soy meat analogs (soy burgers and other processed soy foods) and even seafood (how dairy and seafood qualify as vegetarian is beyond me, but people seem to think it is).

A whole foods plant-based diet is exactly that: whole foods derived from plants. Unless you're living on massive quantities of nuts, seeds and avocados, it will be difficult to become overweight no matter how much you eat. Your nutrient levels will be optimal for a high functioning immune system. Your body will become less hospitable to cancer growth. It's likely you'll fight off colds and flu even when surrounded by sick people.

I'll be candid, it's not easy making these changes because fat, salt, and sugar are addictive. The food industries know this and they make their foods as rich in these substances as possible to ensure people push that little pleasure-center overload lever over and over again despite the dangers. In fact, dairy products contain casein, which we digest to produce the casomorphin. Casomorphin is an opioid that also releases histamines, hence the commonly cited "mucus producing" effect of dairy.

"Behold the Power of Cheese."

OK, time for dinner: spinach dahl over rice, chick pea/potato masala, fresh kale and more of those delicious organic peaches!

:cool:
 
Quote from NoDoji:
OK, time for dinner: spinach dahl over rice, chick pea/potato masala, fresh kale and more of those delicious organic peaches!
:cool: [/B]

sounds like Indian (east not native) diet to me...although dahl is spelled 'dhal' i think.
 
Quote from running_bare:

[B

Read up on GLYCATION.

Fact: Glycation is a destructive process whereby a sugar molecule (carbs = sugar) bonds with a protein or fat molecule - and renders it useless.
So the more carbs you eat = higer incidence of molecule destruction

In other words, accelerates premature aging. Also weakens your immune system, more susceptible to diabetes & other diseases.

FACT 1: there are such things as essential amino acids (from protein)
FACT 2: there are such things as essential fatty acids (from fats)

FACT 3: there are NO SUCH THING as essential carbs!

That says it all!

Have you had your resting blood glucose level tested?
Probably over 100...and which will get worse with age.

Based on your virtually wholly carb diet, you'll be getting adult-onset diabetes sooner than later.
(basically everyone is pre-diabetic. If you live long enough your pancreas will be less effective in producing insulin and/or your body will become less sensitive to insulin)

All those calories from peaches & shit are just empty calories. Sucrose.
Sure, they might provide some benefits of vitamins & whatnot - but could do better with a vitamin pill..

Bread = empty calories crap.
They have to fortify it with B vitamins, that's how useful it is in its original form.

All these empty calories do is raise your blood glucose level which means the pancreas has to secrete insulin to get it back down again.
No guesses that the more the pancreas has to work over many years...the sooner it will wear out, which is one of the causes of diabetes.

The only reason why the effects in your case might not be as bad as a lard ass on a cheetos & soda diet is because you are consuming LESS overall food intake meaning LESS calories.
Both of you are on nearly 100% carb diets

Likely you (like many vegans/vegetarians who spend all their time planning their meals) are on, whether by design or not, a form of restricted calories diet or carefully monitoring caloires, which obvioulsy reduces the deleterious effects of glycation (because of less carbs intake)

Make no mistake - a diet virtually wholly carbs will be detrimental to your health ...sooner than later [/B]
http://www.karenhurd.com/concern_diabetes.html ,,,,tryglycerides..endocrine..pituatary..pancreas
 
The whole nutrition debate really illustrates how easy it is to be mislead. There are so many 'experts' with conflicting studies, conflicting advice....if you listen exclusively to any one of them, they can make a very convincing argument. So you need to listen to a number of different sources and try to determine who has credibility and who does not. Just like politics. Just like economics.

I will say this, whenever you come across somebody who is spouting off about some 'miraculous new discovery'....or some new 'paradigm shift'....be extra wary of what they are selling you.

Keep up the debate
 
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