Why Fat is the Preferred Fuel for Human Metabolism

Quote from atticus:

Nitrogen metabolism. Maintaining a (IC) +nitrogen balance for repair and growth. Resistance training causes the greatest loss of N among all aerobic and anaerobic exercise. Dr. Lemon's research suggested nearly 2g/Kg of protein for the weightlifter.

I am 6'2" and 225lbs. I would require 200g per day to maintain a +N balance while training daily. Some major studies (one large US Army study) suggested 3g/Kg was optimal.

I had a funny feeling I was taking in too much protein. I'm also 225. I've always lived by the 1.5g/day per lb bodyweight during mass building, and 2g/day per lb bodyweight when cutting. When cutting, I get acid reflux so bad it drives me nutty! I think it's from 8 meals/day with 50g or so of protein at each meal. It gets so bad, I'll start on prilosec otc which I'd rather not take.

Sounds like I can lower protein intake while possibly increasing slow carbs which would be a win-win since the lowering of protein (4 calories/gram), and the addition of more complex carbs (4 calories/gram) wouldn't upset fat loss as the calories would be esentially the same.
 
Quote from LEAPup:

I had a funny feeling I was taking in too much protein. I'm also 225. I've always lived by the 1.5g/day per lb bodyweight during mass building, and 2g/day per lb bodyweight when cutting. When cutting, I get acid reflux so bad it drives me nutty! I think it's from 8 meals/day with 50g or so of protein at each meal. It gets so bad, I'll start on prilosec otc which I'd rather not take.

Sounds like I can lower protein intake while possibly increasing slow carbs which would be a win-win since the lowering of protein (4 calories/gram), and the addition of more complex carbs (4 calories/gram) wouldn't upset fat loss as the calories would be esentially the same.

Lemon was suggesting the bare-minimum to maintain a +balance. It's certainly an issue of diminishing returns well before you reach 2x (g/lb). Anecdotally, I've been involved in BBing long enough (as have you) to know that with increased g comes increased hardness and recovery.

I would substitute a portion of your supplemental protein (not from food sources) with BCAA or straight leucine. Plan for your 200g and then supplement 40-50g of 2:1:1 BCAA or 30g of leucine. Take the BCAA at least 90mins pre/post your EAA intake.
 
Quote from LEAPup:

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tbsp of honey stir in hot water like honey tea,immediate relief for 30 minutes
 
Quote from Rehoboth:

Non processed added fiber folks, does a body good. 80-90% of our defense happens through our floral, and what does floral eat?

Fiber is the best thing you can eat for long term health. Keeps the digestive system healthy and working. A healthy digestive system does the body good.
 
Quote from blackjack007:

i'm around 185-190 lbs and eat 125g of protein a day. but i'm in permanent maintenance mode (not trying to gain any more muscle). i think BBers eat too much protein. even when i was bulking, i was only eating 150-175g of protein daily and it was enough.

it's hard to get that much protein without protein supplements like whey powder, which gives me gas that'd rival anything in the military's stockpile. lean sources like chicken breasts are so dry and boring, and beef has too much saturated fat.

I am the same size and would like to add some lean mass while trimming down some fat and would like to stay below 190 lbs.
I have no idea about nutrition so if you would gave me a sample of your one day menu (all food and supplements included ) it would help me and others tremendously.
Thanks
 
Quote from Hombre:

I am the same size and would like to add some lean mass while trimming down some fat and would like to stay below 190 lbs.
I have no idea about nutrition so if you would gave me a sample of your one day menu (all food and supplements included ) it would help me and others tremendously.
Thanks
i don't have a typical one-day menu. i switch up foods often to prevent boredom. here is what i had today:

1. yogurt, oat bran cereal, raisins, 1% milk, banana
2. 4 egg whites + 1 whole egg (scrambled in canola oil), 3 slices of white toast, juice
3. 3 pieces of toast with almond butter, and glass of 1% milk and 1/2 scoop of whey
4. chicken breast & white rice, lettuce with mayo; a smoothie made of orange juice, carrots & broccoli.
5. mango, potato chips, smoothie (OJ & carrots)

that's just a sample. some days are very different (eg, a greasy pizza instead of healthy chicken). or sometimes i only eat 4 times.
 
Quote from LEAPup:

I thought you were female.:confused: :D

Yeah! Ever since I went on this f*ckin' plant-based diet! :D :D

Quote from LEAPup:

When cutting, I get acid reflux so bad it drives me nutty! I think it's from 8 meals/day with 50g or so of protein at each meal. It gets so bad, I'll start on prilosec otc which I'd rather not take.

I had severe acid reflux that started not too long after I began the high protein/low carb diet. Less than two weeks plant-based and I was cured. Never had a refill of the meds since.

Amazing that so many traders here are also pro bodybuilders. All that protein takes a toll on you if it's animal-derived, and the training is nearly a full-time job.

Another advantage I found from ditching refined foods and animal foods is incredible recovery time. When I was playing soccer 4 times a week, I had chronic pain until I changed my diet. 8 days in, no pain, none since. I've been to tournaments with 5 games over 2 days and the young people in their 20's are groaning about how sore they are and taking ibuprofen by the handful, while I have no pain whatsoever.

Many of the athletes on this site seem to echo this "side effect" as well:

http://www.organicathlete.org/tag/eliteveganathletes
 
"This is a source of confusion in studies of the Atkins diet, in which HDL increases along with LDL, so the net cardiovascular effect is considered a wash. However, a report in The New England Journal of Medicine made it clear that it’s important to look at arteries, not just risk factors. It reported that in animal studies, in which the arteries can be directly viewed, an Atkins-type diet increased coronary atherosclerosis (blockages) mediated via mechanisms that are not related to traditional risk factors such as HDL and LDL. Arteries were clogged on the high-fat, high-protein, low carbohydrate diet but clean on the low-fat, moderate-protein, high-carbohydrate diet. "



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-dean-ornish/cholesterol-the-good-the-_b_870655.html
 
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