Why Exactly Are We Supposed To Vote For These People?

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Someone help because I am a bit confused. After last night's debate I am struggling for a reason to vote for any of the candidates, except perhaps Trump or Cruz.

We learned from prior debates that most of the field, excepting Paul and perhaps Trump and Carson, want to continue the Obama foreign policy of trying to start WW III with the Russians, get more troops killed and wounded for no good reason in the middle east and perhaps goad the chinese into a military confrontation. They also want an excuse to bomb Iran.

All of the field except trump are in favor of various flavors of amnesty and open borders. After all, what can we do?

Several of the self-acknowledged big thinkers want to run on a platform of cutting social security and medicare and means testing social security, ie denying it to most republican voters. In fairness, the party geniuses just selected another guy intoxicated by just how smart he is as Speaker, and he made his name calling for screwing republican voters on these programs. They must not have heard the devastating ads run in Florida last cycle where a guy says he worked all his life paying into these programs and now they want to take them away. Probably florida is not an important state or anything.

I didn't hear any of them except for Cruz and Paul objecting to the recent budget sellout. Nothing to see here, move along.

Several of them are outraged by Planned Parenthood's baby parts junk yard. How many are willing to shut the government down to stop it or impeach federal judges who force states to fund them? Cruz and maybe Huck.

I really don't know what their plan to win is other than to retry what didn't work for McCain and Romney. Other than Carly, the rest of them will be too scared to attack Hillary. Somehow though they have to motivate whites and older people to turn out in record numbers. Other than Trump, and he is basically a one issue candidate, I'm not feeling it. I'm sick of going along with slightly less odious.
 
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It's really even worse than that. In Trump's sixty minutes interview, he said that illegal aliens will 'leave, and then come right back in'. His paper on illegal immigration apparently says that only the illegal immigrants who have criminal backgrounds will be forced out. (which means, according to his paper, illegally coming into the country is not a crime, just like all the other people say)

All the stump talk about forcing illegals out, ' because otherwise you don't have a country' is turning out to be bullsht. He's not doing it.
 
I bet someone in the Clinton Foundation has a nice chunk of land for the Donald to develop. Given the troubles the Donald had in Scotland, I bet the Clintons could make foreign investment a lot easier for him.
 
Ann Coulter's take on Evangelical leaders who are opposing Trump:

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What difference does it make where a candidate stands on abortion or gay marriage, when a few more years of our current immigration flow will mean no Republican can ever be elected president again and nine Ruth Bader Ginsburgs will sit on the Supreme Court?


Unless Americans stop being outvoted by foreigners, Christians -- as well as libertarians, neoconservatives, fiscal conservatives and moderate Democrats -- have no hope of winning anything, anywhere, anytime. Thelast Christian country on Earth will be no more
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Evangelicals don't need candidates to have religious ecstasies on stage. They need a man with the courage to stand up to the infectious madness pushing Third World immigration on our country.


Marco Rubio devoted his entire Senate career to pushing amnesty -- but he made a point of letting the press know that he went to church on Wednesday this week, the day of the debate.


Meanwhile, Trump's pitch to the religious right is:Yeah, I don't go to church that much.(At least we know he's not lying!) But he promises to build a wall, deport illegals and end anchor babies.


Evangelicals know Trump will not go on a witch hunt against some county clerk over gay marriage or sue a high school football coach for allowing his players to pray. It's the left that has the maniacal bloodlust of totalitarians. Only Trump will oppose them -- and with gusto!


What other candidate would toss out un-PC phrases like "illegal immigrant" and "anchor babies" without breaking into a sweat? No other candidate of either party agrees with Trump on immigration -- and if they say they do, they're lying.


Even after Trump rocketed to the lead with his immigration policies, the media still refuse to discuss the issue. The demand for ever-more poverty-stricken immigrants from primitive cultures has gone beyond cheap labor and has become a mass hysteria.


Half the evangelical "leadership" in America can't comprehend anyone who is not consumed with worldly approval. Russell Moore is afraid to disagree with The New York Times from his religious community in Tennessee. Donald Trump actually is an elite, but he doesn't care what his friends on Fifth Avenue think of him.


Some Christians want proof that a candidate has memorized Bible verses. I want a candidate who lives by this verse: "So do not be afraid of them."


COPYRIGHT 2015 ANN COULTER
 
AAAintheBeltway said:
Other than Carly, the rest of them will be too scared to attack Hillary. Somehow though they have to motivate whites and older people to turn out in record numbers. Other than Trump, and he is basically a one issue candidate, I'm not feeling it. I'm sick of going along with slightly less odious.
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Just think of the alternative when thinking of what is less odious. I disagree regarding Carly alone attacking the anointed one. Trump, Paul, and Cruz will all attack Hillary. Trump has already called her a liar and criminal publically. I believe Carson will also, but in a way she won't know she's being attacked.
 
I get it but I am just saying, people are not going to find a compelling reason to vote for these people. The only one I would trust to appoint judges is Cruz, but we already have a Supreme Court that discovered a constitutional right to gay marriage that had somehow been hidden in the document for 250 years. Republican appointee John Roberts saved Obamacare.

Republicans have shown themselves to be terrible at foreign policy, they have managed to completely lose the culture wars, they fully funded obamacare and obama's illegal executive amnesty, now they have taken the budget off the table as an issue.

People are not going to get fired up to vote to take away their own social security or see their taxes go up to pay for yet more immigrants.
 
It's not the republicans vs the democrats
It's us against the government
The government controls the "economy."
We control the stock market.
 
AAAintheBeltway said:
I get it but I am just saying, people are not going to find a compelling reason to vote for these people. The only one I would trust to appoint judges is Cruz, but we already have a Supreme Court that discovered a constitutional right to gay marriage that had somehow been hidden in the document for 250 years. Republican appointee John Roberts saved Obamacare.

Republicans have shown themselves to be terrible at foreign policy, they have managed to completely lose the culture wars, they fully funded obamacare and obama's illegal executive amnesty, now they have taken the budget off the table as an issue.

People are not going to get fired up to vote to take away their own social security or see their taxes go up to pay for yet more immigrants.
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Cruz?? CRUZ!!!
 
Must read article:



Former Congressman: I’m Quitting GOP


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In a panel discussion at the University of Colorado after the recent Republican debate, I was asked by a student why she should be a Republican. The question forced me to ask myself the same thing.

This decision has been incubating over the past 17 years, years of watching the downward spiral of the Party of Lincoln and Reagan into the Party of Democrat Lite.

  • As a Member of Congress for ten years (1998-2008), I was subjected to threats and pressures from the Congressional Leadership and President George W. Bush to support the creation of an expensive Medicare prescription drug program–even though creating a new government spending program financed by massive debt flies in the face of the Republican Party’s core principles.
  • Our most powerful and influential “leaders” were shoving this down our throats in a crass political effort to use taxpayer money to buy the votes of senior citizens–particularly in the state of Florida in the next presidential election.
  • I was incredulous about the fact that the most intense lobbying I had ever seen undertaken by our “leadership” was not an effort to limit government or the dollars it spends; it was to do just the opposite.
  • That incident came just months after I was told by President Bush’s top political operative, Karl Rove, “never to darken the door of the White House again” because of my criticism of the administration’s dangerously lax immigration policies in the wake of the September 11 terrorist attacks.
When I first arrived in the U.S. House of Representatives, I naively believed that it was primarily the Democrats who were committed to open borders. But I quickly learned the entire Republican establishment also supported a policy of immigration non-enforcement.

I was repeatedly pulled into the office of the then-Majority Leader, Tom DeLay, and threatened with dire consequences if I continued to speak out publicly for common-sense immigration policies and true border security – particularly if I was doing so in the districts of other Republican Members of Congress.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/30/former-congressman-im-quitting-gop/
 
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