Why everything you've been told about evolution is wrong
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1)When has anyone here said they could prove God exists to you?
2) Just because you categorically deny all evidence does not mean it's not evidence. It only proves it does not satisfy your demands.
3) Of course that leads you to the problem of what evidence would you accept? ( best to conveniently ignore this for your comfort)
Since you believe then you should be able to define god, or is your belief without understanding?
LOL, "don't confuse me with the facts"
Define "God".
Isn't a definition a first start to providing proof?
Isn't a definition a first start to providing proof?
A definition is only as good as the ability of the person hearing the definitions ability to understand.
If you had never tasted strawberries, I would have a hard time providing a definition that you would truly understand. I would have to say "It is a fruit (you think of fruits you have tasted) that is sweet (you think of sweet fruits you have tasted) and that it is red in color (you think of red fruits you have seen) etc.
Now, if you ate a strawberry, then you would understand the definition.
Experience of God will come before any definition of God, as the experience of true faith is what generates the definition of God.
Your mind is fixed on a dualistic relativistic platform, you can't even imagine God except is some physical form, like a "sky fairy" etc. God is not physical, as everything physical exists in relation to everything else physical, where God exists not in relation to anything outside of God. God is whole, everything physical is a partial value.
You are asking for a definition of God when you lack the intellectual depth of understanding of anything that is not verifiable or measurable by the physical instrumentation and physical senses.
God is not physical as you understand, not subject to the laws of gravity, or time, or space, exists at all points in time and space and at no particular time and space, was never created and will never cease to exist, exists if there were no physical time or physical space, is greater than the greatest, smaller than the smallest, pervades everything and is not a thing, etc.
Beyond your experience, as all of your experience is based on duality and partial values. You know black by contrast to white. You know long by contrast to short. All of your experiences are relative...none of they are absolute, eternal, unbounded, etc.
So how could God be defined so that your mind could grasp God, when you are demanding God fit into your own world view?
You are like a two dimensional stick figure drawn on a piece of paper asking someone to define a three dimensional object...you simply will never understand without the experience of three dimensions...
If you had never tasted strawberries, I would have a hard time providing a definition that you would truly understand. I would have to say "It is a fruit (you think of fruits you have tasted) that is sweet (you think of sweet fruits you have tasted) and that it is red in color (you think of red fruits you have seen) etc.
Now, if you ate a strawberry, then you would understand the definition.
Experience of God will come before any definition of God, as the experience of true faith is what generates the definition of God.
Your mind is fixed on a dualistic relativistic platform, you can't even imagine God except is some physical form, like a "sky fairy" etc. God is not physical, as everything physical exists in relation to everything else physical, where God exists not in relation to anything outside of God. God is whole, everything physical is a partial value.
You are asking for a definition of God when you lack the intellectual depth of understanding of anything that is not verifiable or measurable by the physical instrumentation and physical senses.
God is not physical as you understand, not subject to the laws of gravity, or time, or space, exists at all points in time and space and at no particular time and space, was never created and will never cease to exist, exists if there were no physical time or physical space, is greater than the greatest, smaller than the smallest, pervades everything and is not a thing, etc.
Beyond your experience, as all of your experience is based on duality and partial values. You know black by contrast to white. You know long by contrast to short. All of your experiences are relative...none of they are absolute, eternal, unbounded, etc.
So how could God be defined so that your mind could grasp God, when you are demanding God fit into your own world view?
You are like a two dimensional stick figure drawn on a piece of paper asking someone to define a three dimensional object...you simply will never understand without the experience of three dimensions...
Quote from killthesunshine:
Define "God".
Isn't a definition a first start to providing proof?
I'm not asking to taste "God" but to define the "strawberry".
What's the problem, can't you do it
I can do it, you can't understand.
Just as I could define how to be a deep thinker, you would never understand or be able to achieve the experience of being a deep thinker...
Just as I could define how to be a deep thinker, you would never understand or be able to achieve the experience of being a deep thinker...
Quote from killthesunshine:
I'm not asking to taste "God" but to define the "strawberry".
What's the problem, can't you do it
"If you can't define it, your knowledge of a meager and unsatisfactory kind"
-KTS
-KTS