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Why everything you've been told about evolution is wrong
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Quote from OPTIONAL777:
As scientific atheism has risen, America has declined in real wages, morality, divorce, increases in corruption in nearly every institution, and an overall decline in society...
That is the proof...
By scientific and statistical measure, America has declined (except levels of debt) in the overall quality of life with the rise of scientific atheism...
and here I thought the problems were caused by liberal legislatures and liberal courts... If I had only known it wasn't the liberals but the scientific atheists? Oh wait - it is very hard to tell them apart?
I knew you knew I was right. You are are spectacular with rhetoric.
Glad to see you are on the correct side of this one zzz.
Quote from trendlover:
Quote from Gabfly1:
As I just wrote in my last post, morality comes from empathy, which comes from within. That society may or may not be in moral decline has nothing to do with religion or god. Fear is not a very good motivator for good conduct because fear will always look for an angle.
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Look how the baby show empathy. And the baby does not have religion or god when they are little. They try to help. Why? Not from fear of god or punishment. Video on this link too.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11641621/
morality comes from empathy?
I see so much empathy coming from such progressive places as the USSR and China? Progressive men leading the way to equality and Godlessness.
The in name only Christians are as much to blame as the rise of atheistic science...
Quote from jem:
and here I thought the problems were caused by liberal legislatures and liberal courts... If I had only known it wasn't the liberals but the scientific atheists? Oh wait - it is very hard to tell them apart?
I knew you knew I was right. You are are spectacular with rhetoric.
Glad to see you are on the correct side of this one zzz.
Quote from jem:
morality comes from empathy?
I see so much empathy coming from such progressive places as the USSR and China? Progressive men leading the way to equality and Godlessness. [/QUOTE
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Human rights violated is from forcing people to not have freedom to speak. For example when people force to accept all in the bible is true, or all in the manifesto is true. And if someone speak against that they want to kill them or put them in jail.
So religion and communism can be very evil in some parts if that.
For example here.
"Lysenko was admitted into the hierarchy of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, and was put in charge of agricultural affairs. He used his position to denounce biologists as "fly-lovers and people haters," and to decry the "wreckers" in biology, whom he claimed were trying to purposely disable the Soviet economy and cause it to fail. Furthermore, he denied the distinction between theoretical and applied biology."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Here too.
"In February 1616, although he had been cleared of any offence, the Catholic Church nevertheless condemned heliocentrism as "false and contrary to Scripture",[10] and Galileo was warned to abandon his support for itâwhich he promised to do. When he later defended his views in his most famous work, Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, published in 1632, he was tried by the Inquisition, found "vehemently suspect of heresy," forced to recant, and spent the rest of his life under house arrest."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei
Quote from trendlover:
Quote from jem:
morality comes from empathy?
I see so much empathy coming from such progressive places as the USSR and China? Progressive men leading the way to equality and Godlessness. [/QUOTE
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Human rights violated is from forcing people to not have freedom to speak. For example when people force to accept all in the bible is true, or all in the manifesto is true. And if someone speak against that they want to kill them or put them in jail.
So religion and communism can be very evil in some parts if that.
For example here.
"Lysenko was admitted into the hierarchy of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, and was put in charge of agricultural affairs. He used his position to denounce biologists as "fly-lovers and people haters," and to decry the "wreckers" in biology, whom he claimed were trying to purposely disable the Soviet economy and cause it to fail. Furthermore, he denied the distinction between theoretical and applied biology."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Here too.
"In February 1616, although he had been cleared of any offence, the Catholic Church nevertheless condemned heliocentrism as "false and contrary to Scripture",[10] and Galileo was warned to abandon his support for itâwhich he promised to do. When he later defended his views in his most famous work, Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, published in 1632, he was tried by the Inquisition, found "vehemently suspect of heresy," forced to recant, and spent the rest of his life under house arrest."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei
Note to moron: See the significant time lag between the 2 events.
Thanks for your hypocrisy, now do continue on with your ridiculous assertions. :eek:
Quote from Index piker:
Note to moron: See the significant time lag between the 2 events.
Thanks for your hypocrisy, now do continue on with your ridiculous assertions. :eek:
Its always comforting to be called a moron by the moron who can't even summarize his argument.
Only a young moron would even make such a statement. Older morons get disabused of such stupid idealism.
Even marx and the neo cons founders knew religion is the tool which you would use to control people by crafting their moral values.
Empathy does not count for shit when there are mouths to feed and bills to pay.
But, I think you do point out something. Liberals think from a utopian stand point. If we all had houses and families and food and health care - we could all work together to make a great super moral empathetic utopian society - a society in which the losers (typically the liberal socialists) get more than the share they worked for.
Whereas a libertarian and conservative realize - that we don't live in utopia and that in general across society empathy goes out the window where there is a shortage.
Quote from Index piker:
Note to moron: See the significant time lag between the 2 events.
Thanks for your hypocrisy, now do continue on with your ridiculous assertions. :eek: [/QUOTE
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I give this 2 examples because this show how religion and communism punish people who question doctrine.
I know this 2 events I give are different time of history. I do not understand why you think hypocrisy because of time. This really happen.
In time today, this happens in communist countrys, and this happens in countrys that have religion for the law of the people (for example Islam) So I think about that.
Quote from trendlover:
Quote from Index piker:
Note to moron: See the significant time lag between the 2 events.
Thanks for your hypocrisy, now do continue on with your ridiculous assertions. :eek: [/QUOTE
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I give this 2 examples because this show how religion and communism punish people who question doctrine.
I know this 2 events I give are different time of history. I do not understand why you think hypocrisy because of time. This really happen.
In time today, this happens in communist countrys, and this happens in countrys that have religion for the law of the people (for example Islam) So I think about that.
Bullshit, instead of using modern day IS-lame as an example you chose Christianity 400 yrs ago to make your little point.
Lazy or disingenuous ? I'll let the other readers decide.