Quote from Optional:
Wrong. America haters like PSPR want America to collapse. And hurry up!
The country has lost it's way. No doubt.
But it's not like this all started in 2008 like the RTARDS on this site like Pisspoor will have you believe.
They think they are good Americans, better than the other half.
News is - they aren't. They are part of the problem.
Partisan hack pieces of shit assclowns trying to sound witty by crying crocodile tears anytime the Obama does anything and lapping it up like huge pussies when someone with an R beside their name does the same exact fucking thing.
My guess is that faggot dipshits like PSPR were all for the Patriot Act under Bush. Or at least he will say "I wasn't crazy about it".
But now (fist clenched, shaking) i'ma durrrn maddddd!!!!
Fucking losers
In that same spirit (re Obamacare):
" A few conservative lawmakers have speculated that the law will crash so badly that the Democrats will themselves demand repeal in the next couple of years.
" A few Republicans who believe that these effects should not be put off: that Americans should suffer them so as to see the failure of Obamacare with their own eyes. Only then will they turn against the law and its supporters with the requisite passion to undo it."
The article:
Obamacare, Public Opinion, and Conservative Self-Delusion
By Jonathan Chait
Today at 8:00 AM
"One of the more important conservative beliefs about Obamacare, running right alongside the certainty that the law is a disaster that will fail in every respect, is the belief that Americans share their antipathy to the law. It certainly is true that the Affordable Care Act has a bad reputation, and the latest poll showing that support for Obamacare has dipped prompted the same wave of conservative gloating that results from every such poll. But looking even an inch beneath the surface reveals a public more frustrated and confused by Obamacare than opposed. Its specific elements poll well, though theyâre the least known elements. Four out of ten Americans donât realize the law hasnât been struck down. A new poll out shows that the public, by a ten-point margin, trusts Democrats over Republicans on health-care issues. By a 52â34 percent margin, they want Congress to implement or tinker with the law rather than repeal it. The nearly ubiquitous conservative belief that the public shares its passion for repealing Obamacare is a spate of self-delusion.
"That overconfident delusion is the subject of Ramesh Ponnuruâs long National Review essay pleading with conservatives to stop believing their own bullshit. Ponnuru faithfully affirms the general outlines of the right-wing case: Of course the law is terrible, of course it wonât work, of course it must be repealed. He even repeats the misleading line that Max Baucus warned the law would be a "train wreck." But Ponnuru gently warns that the failure might be slow to arrive, and perhaps not the Greece-esque national catastrophe conservatives have talked themselves into expecting. His account of what conservatives expect to happen, furnished from within the movement, is actually frightening:
" A few conservative lawmakers have speculated that the law will crash so badly that the Democrats will themselves demand repeal in the next couple of years.
" A few Republicans who believe that these effects should not be put off: that Americans should suffer them so as to see the failure of Obamacare with their own eyes. Only then will they turn against the law and its supporters with the requisite passion to undo it."
"Ponnuru argues that Republicans must also get serious, finally, about replacing the law with something other than the status quo. But thereâs a reason Republicans donât make repealing Obamacare contingent on an alternative plan: Alternative plans that do anything are hard. People get attached to what they have and suspicious of change. Republicans killed Bill Clintonâs health reform by raising the specter that people who have insurance would get something different, which they didnât trust. The GOPâs only real health-care traction in the 2012 elections came by assailing Obama for cutting Medicare.
"Republicans have wisely decided to attack Obamacare without committing themselves to an alternative because the alternative would be easy to attack. Ponnuru, for instance, suggests changing the tax code and stripping regulations to create âa market in which almost everyone would be able to purchase relatively cheap, renewable insurance policies that protected them from the risk of catastrophic health expenses.â Telling tens of millions of Americans theyâll lose their insurance that covers basic medical expenses and get bare-bones policies with thousands of dollars in deductibles is not a winning play.
"The Republican war against the implementation of Obamacare is largely an attempt to exploit Amerciansâ aversions to change. Thatâs why the GOP is throwing around wild, inflated claims of ârate shockâ â sowing fears that Obamacare will jack up peoplesâ health-insurance premiums. The latest party organ to do this is the Republican leadership in Ohio, which is warning its citizens that they will face enormous new costs. (Jonathan Cohn takes apart the shoddy claims.)
"The tiny kernel of truth is that a handful of people â mostly young, male, and healthy â will have to buy into some kind of regular insurance plan that covers stuff, not only plans that cover your costs if youâre injured in a car crash and make you pay for just about everything else. The scare campaign could work, at least to some extent. But if it works, it wonât work because Americans are dying to be converted to an all-catastrophic, high-deductible system.
"What Republicans have going for them is that health care is really complicated, people donât spend hours a day boning up on public policy, and those who have insurance understandably fear losing what they have. But the vast majority of the public is not going to see any changes under the new law. Even if the Obamacare exchanges collapse, they only bring in people who donât have Medicare or employer coverage anyway and are already suffering through a dysfunctional individual insurance market. The âshockâ is going to be felt by conservatives who are expecting their Randian fantasies of socialist dystopia to come true."
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/06/obamacare-and-conservative-self-delusion.html
