Why does TA not work (for you)?

And then he uses TA among other things to locate entries. Non random entries, using TA as a component. Ergo, Tim uses TA.

Quote from marketsurfer:



Sykes for instance, already knows he is going to SHORT, his bias is established before the fact---

surf
 
Brother Surf...Go to the bottom of page 298 of my Random thread in Chit Chat.
Solve the puzzle, then we will all know if you are smart enough to be taught how to trade.
Good luck!
 
Charts in and of themselves are just visual tools. It's the TRADER who must understand relationships before creating a system. Then must test system to make sure there is consistency. Once there is over an extended period of time, only THEN should one believe in what TA can provide. Until then, there is no reason to be a "true believer". It seems some in this thread were believers first without doing all the required analysis and observation.

OR....one can forgo charts altogether and use an entirely different system. Who cares what method one uses, so long as the trader finds something that works.

Quote from oilfxpro:

Agreed charts are not predictive , but types of chart anylysis and reading context will give a little predictive help in finding direction.
 
Quote from wrbtrader:

As I stated back then in those threads when I was formerly known as NihabaAshi...you guys are closet TA users that are afraid or too stubborn to admit you're using TA along with the fact you guys back then and you today are unable to acknowledge someone that is verified via your own standards of proof (e.g. T. Sykes).

Correct.

Nothing but vanity and pride, I`m afraid. :)
 
When a person wants to learn about trading, he must let go of a lot of preconceived garbage.
This is not easy.
Why?
Because people only see what they believe; not what someone else tells them.
Yet, there must be a starting point, somewhere.
But, it's up to the individual to take that leap of faith.
When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
 
Quote from R. Raskolnikov:

Charts in and of themselves are just visual tools. It's the TRADER who must understand relationships before creating a system. Then must test system to make sure there is consistency. Once there is over an extended period of time, only THEN should one believe in what TA can provide. Until then, there is no reason to be a "true believer". It seems some in this thread were believers first without doing all the required analysis and observation.

OR....one can forgo charts altogether and use an entirely different system. Who cares what method one uses, so long as the trader finds something that works.

Yes, I have no argument with intuitive chart reading--- if you have that talent, more profits to you. My argument is with TA users who think they are quantifiably increasing the odds on an entry. This can not be shown or proven-- therefore, its chart interpretation via skill, talent, intuition whatever.... If this was just admitted, I can't argue with it.
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

Not at all. Just show me, a series of before the fact calls, in a journal here for 90 days. It's really easy to convince me that you have something--- however, in 10 years on elite, NO ONE has even provided this-- always excuses. You up for it? I can take the results, crunch them, and determine if they are outside of the realm of randomness-- if they are, I'll be happy to admit....

See, I want to find systems, edges, methods that work-- its how I make a portion of my income--by introducing people, and placing capital---

Surf, for over ten years you have blown up "numerous" times in your Surf Reports. You would routinely get obliterated on a trade, then disapear. Don't you think it's a bit much going around telling people what works and what doesn't when you have never shown any kind of profitability?

If you are out searching for people to place capital, that's great. But unless you can show that your method works quit trashing others.....it's a joke.
 
Quote from traderchi128:

Surf, for over ten years you have blown up "numerous" times in your Surf Reports. You would routinely get obliterated on a trade, then disapear. Don't you think it's a bit much going around telling people what works and what doesn't when you have never shown any kind of profitability?

If you are out searching for people to place capital, that's great. But unless you can show that your method works quit trashing others.....it's a joke.

Yes, I have had my ups and downs. Wins and losses-- no doubt.

I dont trash anyone. I think I remain respectful, never any personal attacks, etc I do trash concepts--like quantifiable TA that I know have little merit-- yet folks keep on believing..

surf
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

Yes, the same argument can be made for TA traders who wonder why they can never "make it work".

Well Surf...if you could "make it work" wouldn't you be trading and not talking about it?
 
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