Why does Hamas fire rockets?
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The Arab world is constantly enraged. Reporting this is like pointing out that water runs downhill...
This Article is from the British Newspaper (The Guardian):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/30/israelandthepalestinians-middleeast
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/30/israelandthepalestinians-middleeast
Oh yes, very civilized...very humane.
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Funny article, called "Britain has a duty to Arabs" it's written by an arab (Ed Husain) and published in the most leftist pro-arab newspaper.
The article is not that bad though, of course he conveniently forgets to mention that out of 300 killed palestinians 270 were hamas members but I am glad they (british islamists) want to reject suicide bombings and support a two state solution. I will believe it when I see it and when they can convince Hamas to reject suicide bombings and accept a two state solution.
You were changing the subject with regards to Israel being akin to an Apartheid state. Also, immigrant integration problems are evident everywhere in the world - nothing new there. That also goes for the social pattern of discriminating or exaggerated blaming of "foreigners" for various problems during times of crisis.
In Japan, the Brazilians get stereotyped and singled out... as robbers, foul, loud-mouths etc.
In Europe, Muslims first generation immigrants "refuse" to integrate themselves with laws and society, while second generation immigrants and later - get totally lost between growing up with another reality and being pressured by parents, as well as stereotyped by society.
In Brazil, foreigners are the target for frauds and crimes "because they deserve it after 500 years of exploiting Brazil."
In the US, Latin Americans recent immigrants are exploited in sweat shops and poorly paid jobs without any protection. African Americans are stereotyped and an institutional systemic bias as well as population social patterns exclude them from equal opportunities.
All of the Americas are pretty racist - the south and the north, and the legacy of slavery and apartheid is still very evident.
Israel not only have the social problems, but engage in violent military actions, and have a population armed to the teeth and sneering aggression coupled with religious fanaticism. It is the most extreme example on Earth of social problems - exaggerated by the boneheaded religious disputes.
Personally, I don't have any problems moving around nor getting along with people I live with - but then I'm not polarizing my neighbours by constant moralistic talk or labelling "them as 'evil' while I am 'good'". I am no believer in peace in the Middle East, and we are heading into more and sever conflicts in the decades ahead - given the economic turmoil and limited world resources with production problems. Also, with the US facing a much harder reality than after WWII - it looks like Israel will learn to behave differently as well. In my opinion, it is much smarter to accept that they have to adapt rather than stick with their old outdated ideas.
Wake up. Hamas doesn't give a fuck about the ordinary Palestinian. This sums things up rather well.
"The crucial point to bear in mind is that Hamas is not a reasonable political movement. It cannot thrive without crisis; the blood of innocents is its own lifeblood. These are not Palestinian nationalists who happen to be Muslims; they are totalitarian Islamists whose Palestinian identity is of secondary importance. They have nothing but contempt for Arab Muslim states. Instead, they draw inspiration and resources from non-Arab Iran, the most ruthless power in the region, which may well have put pressure on them to end the ceasefire. Only Iran can equal Hamas in its determination to wipe out Israel â and, eventually, every secular Arab state. "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...s-hand-propaganda-coup-to-Hamas-and-Iran.html
Mid-East politics 101:
Okay students, raise your hand if you know the answer. Which side has publicly stated that their #1 reason for existence is to murder every single man, woman and child from the other side and establish a worldwide state governed by their religious leaders?
Yes, the answer would be ______.
(You can fill in the blank. Hamas, Hezbollah, whatever).
Yep, the response by Israel has been awful and destructive. Yes, I wish that so many Palestinian women and children didn't die. However, let's not pretend that the blame lies anywhere but at the feet of Hamas.
they are missing a terrible despot who doesn't give a fuck.
Rise up mr. Adolf Goldstein, and start obliterating palestine, jordan, syria egypt and the rest of the ilk. Nuke a few times, kill MANY MANY people.
then, beat them into submission, move the remaining Palestinians to egypt, syria, jordan, etc. and give concessions to give the government back to them.
after all is done, the world will condemn mr. Goldstein, but no one else. He may even be tried, but thats a sacrifice a leader must make.
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and about "over" response. there is no such thing. in war, you get punched in the stomach, you bring a bat, brass knuckles, a chain and you beat the fucking guy so the next time he thinks about even looking in your direction his 8 broken ribs start hurting one more time.
Otherwise, to respond for the sake of response is silly. You need to respond with an effect, that this shit won't work. BUT ALSO OFFER AN ANOTHER WAY.
let the palistinians know that if they want to play good, there are other options.
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another thing. I've been recently to the middle east. they are disgusting people. NO EDUCATION, no ethics, no manners.
I suggest start with education. TEACH THEM. they are barbaric just visit one of those countries. ITS NOT CUTE.
Rise up mr. Adolf Goldstein, and start obliterating palestine, jordan, syria egypt and the rest of the ilk. Nuke a few times, kill MANY MANY people.
then, beat them into submission, move the remaining Palestinians to egypt, syria, jordan, etc. and give concessions to give the government back to them.
after all is done, the world will condemn mr. Goldstein, but no one else. He may even be tried, but thats a sacrifice a leader must make.
_____
and about "over" response. there is no such thing. in war, you get punched in the stomach, you bring a bat, brass knuckles, a chain and you beat the fucking guy so the next time he thinks about even looking in your direction his 8 broken ribs start hurting one more time.
Otherwise, to respond for the sake of response is silly. You need to respond with an effect, that this shit won't work. BUT ALSO OFFER AN ANOTHER WAY.
let the palistinians know that if they want to play good, there are other options.
____
another thing. I've been recently to the middle east. they are disgusting people. NO EDUCATION, no ethics, no manners.
I suggest start with education. TEACH THEM. they are barbaric just visit one of those countries. ITS NOT CUTE.
When Humans Become Savages (Kudos to the Journalist From Haaretz (a Middle East News Paper) who wrote this. He has my deep respect)):
(Make sure that your kid do not read what is below. It injures even the coldest of all hearts):
"Do the pilots think about them, the children of refugees whose parents and grandparents have already been driven from their lives? Do they think about the thousands of people they have left permanently disabled in a place without a single hospital worthy of the name and no rehabilitation centers at all? Do they think about the burning hatred they are planting not only in Gaza but in other corners of the world amid the horrific images on television? "
"After all, these are not sadistic Border Police officers beating up Arabs in the alleys of Nablus and the center of Hebron, or cruel undercover soldiers who shoot their targets point-blank in cold blood. These, as we have said, are our finest young men. "
" Maybe if they were to confront the results of their "wonderful work" even once they would regret their decisions, they would reconsider the effects of their actions. If they were to go just once to Jerusalem's Alyn Hospital Pediatric and Adolescent Rehabilitation Center, where for nearly three years Marya Aman, 7, has been hospitalized - she is a quadriplegic who runs her wheelchair, and her life, with her chin - they would be shocked. This adorable little girl was hit by a missile in Gaza that killed almost her entire family, the handiwork of our pilots. "
(Make sure that your kid do not read what is below. It injures even the coldest of all hearts):
"Do the pilots think about them, the children of refugees whose parents and grandparents have already been driven from their lives? Do they think about the thousands of people they have left permanently disabled in a place without a single hospital worthy of the name and no rehabilitation centers at all? Do they think about the burning hatred they are planting not only in Gaza but in other corners of the world amid the horrific images on television? "
"After all, these are not sadistic Border Police officers beating up Arabs in the alleys of Nablus and the center of Hebron, or cruel undercover soldiers who shoot their targets point-blank in cold blood. These, as we have said, are our finest young men. "
" Maybe if they were to confront the results of their "wonderful work" even once they would regret their decisions, they would reconsider the effects of their actions. If they were to go just once to Jerusalem's Alyn Hospital Pediatric and Adolescent Rehabilitation Center, where for nearly three years Marya Aman, 7, has been hospitalized - she is a quadriplegic who runs her wheelchair, and her life, with her chin - they would be shocked. This adorable little girl was hit by a missile in Gaza that killed almost her entire family, the handiwork of our pilots. "
10,048 Palestinian rockets and mortar shells have been fired into Israel from Gaza since 2001.
RAMALLAH, WEST BANK Dec. 30, 2008-: On the wall of the Israeli government press office in Jerusalem is a stack of yellow Post-it notes pasted one on top of the other, with the number 10,048 scrawled on the top one. That is the number of Palestinian rockets and mortar shells fired into Israel from Gaza sinc
http://www.newsobserver.com/front/story/1349345.html
RAMALLAH, WEST BANK Dec. 30, 2008-: On the wall of the Israeli government press office in Jerusalem is a stack of yellow Post-it notes pasted one on top of the other, with the number 10,048 scrawled on the top one. That is the number of Palestinian rockets and mortar shells fired into Israel from Gaza sinc
http://www.newsobserver.com/front/story/1349345.html