Why does ET countertrend powerful trends so much ?

Quote from No.Heat:

Counter trending can be profitable, provided you have studied thousands and thousands of hours of price action. Reading a book or even a library does not count. This is something that must be experienced hands on.

Incidentally, counter trending provides lower risk entries in comparison to trend trading as the entries are infinitely more precise. Anyone with a clue knows what I'm talking about.

Basically, unless you are profitable with retracements you do not touch counter trend because it clearly suggests you don't know your game.

The above might sound contradictory, believe me, it is not.

Depending on point of view. It is possible that one persons counter trend trade is another persons with the trend trade.

Lets face it, without specifics, we are all just blowing our Vuvuzela.
 
i can see that SPY is in a powerful uptrend while UUP (USD ETF) is in a powerful downtrend.

so I just buy dips in SPY and sell rallies in UUP? if i start with $10K account how much can i reasonably expect by Xmas?

i need a new wireless mouse from Logitech (~$50). will I be able to earn that much after tax?
 
Quote from shortie:

i can see that SPY is in a powerful uptrend while UUP (USD ETF) is in a powerful downtrend.

so I just buy dips in SPY and sell rallies in UUP? if i start with $10K account how much can i reasonably expect by Xmas?

i need a new wireless mouse from Logitech (~$50). will I be able to earn that much after tax?

Clearly a troll post, however I'll respond anyways for self entertainment. Note Troll response.

"so I just buy dips in SPY and sell rallies in UUP?" Yes!

"if i start with $10K account how much can i reasonably expect by Xmas?" More money than you can imagine!

"i need a new wireless mouse from Logitech (~$50). will I be able to earn that much after tax?" Only amatures pay taxes. Learn to be PRO.
 
Quote from BeingProfitable:

... Learn to be PRO.

oops, you should have written paper traders and losing traders don't pay taxes to be closer to the truth.

hard to believe the rest of your response.
 
Quote from shortie:

oops, you should have written paper traders and losing traders don't pay taxes to be closer to the truth.

hard to believe the rest of your response.

You think I'm being serious? Read my post again. Or you just trolling me back?
 
Quote from NoDoji:

To counter-trend properly you don't short the top of "an" up move, you short the top of "the" up move.

Well said. A point lost on so many on this site.

Only rarely does the market clearly signal when a move is completely exhausted and about to reverse on a dime. And those occasions offer big quick wins if you are fast enough to get onboard.

My analysis of market data reveals that, the majority of the time, reversals take place due to swarming activity by market participants. Swarming is a chaotic process and this makes the actual price of the top or bottom very hard to pin down until well after the fact.

If you examine tick level order book and transaction data it's easy to see less experienced players shorting every temporary pause in an up swing and getting murdered when strength comes back into the market.
 
Quote from ScoobyStoo:

... reversals take place due to swarming activity by market participants. Swarming is a chaotic process ....
No.
(This is a renovated version of the old random walk theory.)

If you examine tick level order book and transaction data it's easy to see ...
... that bottoms and tops are managed by big pockets.
(How could it be different)
 
Quote from konviction:

Many trading books preach that the crowd aka the general public is wrong 99% of the time, and that the real money comes from trading against these people. However if the crowd is responsible for developing trends, then maybe this logic is wrong, and we should all trade with the crowd and stop betting against them. Maybe this is only true in a pure scalping enviroment?..i dont know.

I can say that my trading has gotten better when I trade when, and only if there is a trend. If there is not a trend, I either wait, or look for another stock. For those that need constant excitement are the ones that write our paychecks ;) .

few months ago I stumbled across an ebook that I found very insightful as rookie. I still have it on my HD. from the very beginning it urges how to trade WITH the trend. perhaps worth a quick read.
 

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Quote from uexkuell:

No.
(This is a renovated version of the old random walk theory.)

Swarm behaviour != random behaviour. This is a common misconception.

Quote from uexkuell:

... that bottoms and tops are managed by big pockets.
(How could it be different)

Some are. Some aren't.
 
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