Why does California have so much industry/jobs?

[tenthousandmen]

Quote from jem:

I lived in the sarasota-bradenton area for 3 years. San Diego's weather is only similar for a few months during winter. I moved my family back.

In my opinion San Diego is far better than Florida for living, for business, for golf and surfing. From may til October if you move too quickly in So Fla, you sweat through your suit and then you squish around for the next few hours. I would re consider florida if all I had to do was play tennis on har tru courts, golf and boat. But for living and creating business there is no comparison.

But if you like flip flops and boating... Florida is much better. Ask my wife, she says it at least once a week.

CA is great for meeting people who have ideas and want to work together to make more money.

It seems back east everyone wants to keep it in the family. Its seems to be a completely different mind set.

San Diego is incrediable, I love the place! Humidity is a problem in Florida, and the air crap in the Cape Canaveral area doesn't help. Miami, Naples are excellent though. Prior to scilicon valley, I was in the Miami area for quite some time.

 

[WS_MJH]

Quote from trefoil:

Yep. Absolutely.
If that were true, I should be able to pick some other high tax states and find they're just as bad off, and pick some low tax ones and find they do way better, right?

California employment vs the rest

I picked NY and NJ because I either live or have lived in both, and of course they're pretty notoriously high tax. Florida is notoriously low tax, and I picked Arkansas just because it was right next to California on the Google form, and is nice and low tax too. Indiana I picked just to have another random state that normally goes Republican.
California is highest in unemployment, but its been that way chronically since all the way back, starting in 1993 according to this graph. New York and New Jersey are in the middle, both do much better than Florida recently, and neither have lines that are chronically higher than the rest, like California does.
So whatever ails California is unique to California, and not something it shares with other high tax, large public sector states. I don't know what it is, but since you cited stuff it shares with NY and NJ, you don't either.
The only reason you guys on the right go after the public sector folks is cause they're the only ones who've managed to keep the stuff all workers had back in the sixties. Makes you all mad. Doesn't mean it causes California to have chronically higher unemployment than all the other states, because if that were the case, you'd see it in New York certainly, and you don't.

Ok, so you dumped your infrastructure argument, good. Now you're justifying out of wack compensation for public employees. So, while everyone else in society is getting their pay cut, public sector employees always deserve more, huh. They already get paid more than the private sector and they get pensions on top. What is that....greed. They get all that because they buy elections. There is no difference between them and the greed that caused the housing bubble and economic collapse.

The fact is insane public sector salaries don't make companies better at all. The successful people in NY, CA, MA succeed despite high taxes. Finance and tech etc can afford high taxes; most other industries cannot: loss of manufacturing in the rust belt, how Rhode Island, CT and upstate New York became basket cases.

 

[trefoil]

Quote from WS_MJH:

Ok, so you dumped your infrastructure argument, good. Now you're justifying out of wack compensation for public employees. So, while everyone else in society is getting their pay cut, public sector employees always deserve more, huh. They already get paid more than the private sector and they get pensions on top. What is that....greed. They get all that because they buy elections. There is no difference between them and the greed that caused the housing bubble and economic collapse.

The fact is insane public sector salaries don't make companies better at all. The successful people in NY, CA, MA succeed despite high taxes. Finance and tech etc can afford high taxes; most other industries cannot: loss of manufacturing in the rust belt, how Rhode Island, CT and upstate New York became basket cases.

I didn't drop my infrastructure argument. I was merely showing your argument to be false, which I did.

 

[piezoe]

Quote from oldtime:

I'm kind of a jazz fan. Oscar Peterson was playing at the Fairmont in SF. Two drink minimum which for me and my wife was $40, plus 40 parking. and I think they even had a ticket price of $20.

visited family in Indianapolis, and he was playing at Clowes Hall, tickets $6.00 free parking.

I was in New Orleans Friday and Saturday. The prices in San Francisco are right to make SF the New Orleans of the West Coast, without the muggings, murders, garbage, chaos and stupidity.