Why Do They Hate Us?

The Gruber Test

The Washington Post stated:

“Trump’s repeated statements about immigrants and crime underscore a common public perception that crime is correlated with immigration, especially illegal immigration. But that is a misperception; no solid data support it, and the data that do exist negate it.”

But the GAO’s numbers do support that perception. Namely that illegals and non-citizens make up 3% and 8% of the population, respectively, but commit at least 22% to 37% of the murders. Illegals likely commit murder at about 10 times the rate of all U.S. inhabitants.

You might try to dismiss Kate Steinle as an “anecdote,” but the GAO estimated there were 25,064 such anecdotes over only a few years.

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those studies about illegals committing crimes at lower rates are all seriously flawed.
they are essentially propaganda.

https://www.americanthinker.com/art...t_a_much_higher_rate_than_us_citizens_do.html

Let’s take homicide as an example. The GAO estimates “criminal aliens” were arrested, convicted and incarcerated for 25,064 homicides. If non-citizens committed them over seven years, the annual rate would be 14.2 per 100,000 non-citizens. If illegal aliens committed them over four years, the annual rate would be 58.0 per 100,000 illegal aliens. Either way you compute, those are high rates.

By comparison, the FBI reports the murder rates for the entire U.S. from 2003 through 2009 varied from 5.0 to 5.8 per 100,000 inhabitants for an average rate of 5.5. To be clear, 5.5 is much lower than either 14.2 or 58.0.

Or look at the total number of homicides in those years. Per the FBI, there were 67,642 murders in the U.S. from 2005 through 2008, and 115,717 from 2003 through 2009. Per the GAO, criminal aliens committed 25,064 of them. That means they committed 22% to 37% of all murders in the U.S., while being only 3.52% to 8.25% of the population.

Conclusion: criminal and illegal aliens commit murder at much higher rates than all inhabitants of the U.S. – at least 3 to 10 times higher.



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Of course it would be like jem to dig up a source like AmericanFabricator.
 
The Gruber Test

The Washington Post stated:

“Trump’s repeated statements about immigrants and crime underscore a common public perception that crime is correlated with immigration, especially illegal immigration. But that is a misperception; no solid data support it, and the data that do exist negate it.”

But the GAO’s numbers do support that perception. Namely that illegals and non-citizens make up 3% and 8% of the population, respectively, but commit at least 22% to 37% of the murders. Illegals likely commit murder at about 10 times the rate of all U.S. inhabitants.

You might try to dismiss Kate Steinle as an “anecdote,” but the GAO estimated there were 25,064 such anecdotes over only a few years.

Four Grubers
Having fact-checked the fact-checker, there is no verdict possible other than Four Grubers for Ms. Lee.

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Look no further than the data on federal prison populations. Illegals are about a third of the population. Are illegals a third of the general population of the U.S? Ahhhh, let's say no.

Also, even their rate was lower, we are not looking for anymore criminals. I would deport the American criminals too if we could but the Constitution does not allow and I accept that- but I am definitely not up for waiving the constitution or statutory law to bring more in. If that means lots and lots of non-criminals will not be able to come in then- well that's fine too.

Residency and citizenship should be by invitation and approval only. I dont get any greater right to just show up and permanently live in Canada just because I come from a state that had the lowest crime rate in the country- which is true.
 
Also, even their rate was lower, we are not looking for anymore criminals.

This is the key point. They refused to track the data, even though it would have been easy to do. Then they have the gall to say, sorry but there is no data to support your position. The point is, any crime from illegals or legal immigrants, is unacceptable. We let you live here, the very least we expect is that you observe our laws.
 
Since undocumented immigrants as a group are proportionately less likely to commit crimes than US citizens, then you should do the right thing and deport yourself. For the children. Or don't you care about American children?

http://www.politifact.com/californi...-true-undocumented-immigrants-less-likely-co/
Thank goodness we have the "late 50-something internet lurking fag hag from Canada" to tell us that American citizens who disagree with his position on illegals in our country should deport themselves.

Fuck you and leftist Politifact and don't bother producing more leftist bullshit. Because whether it's correct or not (and I doubt that it is), crime by illegals should be ZERO because they don't belong here in the first place.

The only relevance your posts have is to highlight what we as Americans should be against.

Looking at crime by illegals in Texas alone using government data, there are thousands of crimes that should not have occurred and thousands of victims who should not have been victimized. On top of that, these figures are low because they only include reported crimes.

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https://www.dps.texas.gov/administration/crime_records/pages/txCriminalAlienStatistics.htm
 
This one is my all-time favorite rant of his going off the deep end. Tough to beat:

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/slander-and-fraud-concerning-my-account.227449/

The exodus of competant people from this site is obvious, and I have no need to be here anymore. - Nine Ender, 2011
You and a few others have said Tony Stark is also AK Forty Seven. So I did a few searches and have to agree based on spelling, syntax, etc. I also found this AK47 hissy fit which is a close contender to Nine Ender's meltdown: :D

https://elitetrader.com/et/threads/leapup-up-still-posting-racial-slurs-in-p-r.271874/#post-3840407
 
You and a few others have said Tony Stark is also AK Forty Seven. So I did a few searches and have to agree based on spelling, syntax, etc. I also found this AK47 hissy fit which is a close contender to Nine Ender's meltdown: :D

https://elitetrader.com/et/threads/leapup-up-still-posting-racial-slurs-in-p-r.271874/#post-3840407
Yes,
Tony Stark is AK Forty Seven. Range Rover might be another one of his aliases. And, this recent thread contains numerous posts with his racist remarks. Here's a sample:

Most Black Americans arent Coons,only around 8% of them,the owens,ben carson clarence thomas types and their own people call them Coons and Uncle Toms more than I do.

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...-conservative-firebrand-candace-owens.320467/
 
You and a few others have said Tony Stark is also AK Forty Seven. So I did a few searches and have to agree based on spelling, syntax, etc. I also found this AK47 hissy fit which is a close contender to Nine Ender's meltdown: :D

https://elitetrader.com/et/threads/leapup-up-still-posting-racial-slurs-in-p-r.271874/#post-3840407

Oh, he's definitely AK Forty Seven. There's no question at all.

I cannot say he is Range Rover, but it is possible. I don't know why all these moonbats go crazy, leave and have to come back under different names all the time. Sometimes they get banned, others they run off in a pissy fit.

Freddie had like 4 names (he's on his 4th or 5th), Ricter had multiple names and is back under H4M, including the time he made Dave1010101 to talk with himself (until Max found him). ExGoPer was Waggie and a host of other names from what I understand. AK Forty Seven had a tantrum only to come back as Tony Stark (couldn't stay away), volpunter comes back every few weeks with a new name (think he's had about 6 now), who else am I missing?
 
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