Why do people use Volume, Range and Tic charts?

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P.S. You've made a mistake Surf. I used to try to be neutral with you, and even supported some of the stupider comments you made on your Journal. Now I'm gonna piss all over it (along with everyone who takes a stroll through) every chance I get, and the way you trade, there will be many.
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as predicted, THE THREATS HAVE BEGUN. the TRUE BELIEVERS are RALLYING. BRING IT ON and PROVE your inability to support the claims made in this thread.

i make no CLAIMS, i make TYPOS, and am FAR from a perfect trader. so what?

stop obfusicating the issue...my trading has NOTHING to do with the Plogic types claims.

Prove the claims in a simple manner or ADMIT DEFEAT, CRY BABIES!

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surf
 
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an open challenge to ANYONE who believes these type of chart/system provide an edge:

submit your name, get an invite

tracktimer@timertrac.com


http://www.timertrac.com/Public/Default.asp


I DEFY P.LOGIC ( or anyone ) to SUBMIT to this simple tracking to prove the theory once and for all.

i am betting that NO ONE will take up the challenge, as you KNOW there is no edge here, its simply data smoothing/hindsight.

step out the realm of anecdotal evidence, prove your ideas!

let the WHINING, bitching, complaining, threats, folklore, and twisted reasons begin on WHY no one will TEST these claims..... bunch of BABIES and DELUSIONAL fantasy traders---

surf:D


ps. if TT doesn't float your boat, ANY other 3rd party service is acceptable to the challenge host.
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I am trying to figure out why a profitable trader would waste his time proving their method works to anyone else?

I am also wondering why a real trader would establish a journal on ANY site and post his trades? How many profitable trades could you miss every day wasting your time in that fashion?

If you question a method, you should evaluate it for yourself. If it doesn't work for you, AND you feel this overwhelming desire to post, you should explain the trades you took and the reasoning behind them. At least you have kicked the tires and have some reason (besides your opinion) to be critical. Who knows, others who made the same beginner's mistakes may take pity and put you back on the path.

It is hard to take you seriously when you dismiss a method out-of-hand and then issue challenges to those who use that method.

Do what most people do...evaluate it for yourself. This "prove it works and maybe I will take a look at it" isn't working for you.
 
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I am trying to figure out why a profitable trader would waste his time proving their method works to anyone else?

I am also wondering why a real trader would establish a journal on ANY site and post his trades? How many profitable trades could you miss every day wasting your time in that fashion?

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Does this mean you are not a profitable trader? Why does anyone spend any time here? I dont think it has anything to do with profitability or otherwise. Some people like verbal fisticuffs and some do not and it has nothing to do with how good they are. We all waste time in one way or another. Halo or ET. Pick your poison.
 
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I am trying to figure out why a profitable trader would waste his time proving their method works to anyone else?

I am also wondering why a real trader would establish a journal on ANY site and post his trades? How many profitable trades could you miss every day wasting your time in that fashion?

If you question a method, you should evaluate it for yourself. If it doesn't work for you, AND you feel this overwhelming desire to post, you should explain the trades you took and the reasoning behind them. At least you have kicked the tires and have some reason (besides your opinion) to be critical. Who knows, others who made the same beginner's mistakes may take pity and put you back on the path.

It is hard to take you seriously when you dismiss a method out-of-hand and then issue challenges to those who use that method.

Do what most people do...evaluate it for yourself. This "prove it works and maybe I will take a look at it" isn't working for you.
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hey, my man, we are coming from different worlds, totally different worlds. personal experience/anecdotal evidence is well and good when it comes to religion or art. i have no issue with a subjective trading method, can some people make this work---sure, why not? however, it's SOLD as an objective method that can be programmed--- this is my issue and why testing is far more critical than personal experience. your' answer to the challenge is exactly what i was expecting and PROVES the subjective nature of these ideas.

i look for edge in objective methods, this method is neither objective or provides an edge. does it help in the <i> interpretation</i> of charts for some technical price chart artists??? maybe, maybe not---that's not the issue.

bottom line is this method CAN NOT be tested, it CAN NOT be purely objectively implemented--- it requires interpretation and provides no more edge than any other chart reading tactic.

as the gary states---why would a profitable trader post anything on elite, hold seminars, etc??

LET'S SEE THIS METHOD WORK AND BE VERIFIED BY A 3rd party SOURCE. until then, you technical artists will have to just admit its subjective and provides no edge.

surf:D
 
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I assume this is a picture of marketsurfer?

Looks a lot younger than I assumed...:p
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thank you. i could only wish to be that young and good looking! sometimes, after i lose in tennis or a trade i look similar, but not usually....

unfortunately, that's a representation of the cry babies who make numerous claims and when challenged on them start whining, bitching, complaining, threatening, etc.
 
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unfortunately, that's a representation of the cry babies who make numerous claims and when challenged on them start whining, bitching, complaining, threatening, etc.
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Oh, it works :)

JJ
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

LET'S SEE THIS METHOD WORK AND BE VERIFIED BY A 3rd party SOURCE. until then, you technical artists will have to just admit its subjective and provides no edge.

surf:D
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translation: Will someone please help me figure-out how to make money consistently with my trading? ... Please?

Signed: Market Surfer ... :p
 
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